Originally Posted by hv92 (Post 4030451)

but uhhh..

the mustang will weigh less... have shitload more hp..?

Originally Posted by NicolasKL (Post 4030782)

Personally I'd prefer to have the option to not have the added weight and expense of things you don't need. If you're never going to twisty track your car you really have no need for a diff cooler. Most of these cars (both GT500 and ZL1) are never going to see VIR, they're going to be street cars and some with occasional trips to the drag strip. Saving 6 or so grand and not paying for stuff you don't really need or care about seems like a pretty good idea to me.

Originally Posted by RLHMARINES (Post 4032351)

Just as ford went back to the drawing board after the camaro came back out in 2009 and chevy has been winning the sales crown ever since. Ford up's the GT engine and horsepower, why? Camaro, thats why. Ford changes the base v6, why? Camaro, see how this is going. Ford updates the styling on the mustang, why you ask? Camaro, again can you see the trend. Now, the ZL1 is announced and the blue oval knows it must again try thwart the still in second place mustang from loosing more sales before the next gen cars appear in 2015 or so from both ford and chevy. All this is due to like Big Al stated in his open letter because the Camaro has proven to be a worthy opponent, otherwise the mustang would still be soldiering on with the same equipment from 2009 with only a new bullit edition every couple of years to keep the sheep interested in the same ole car. Competition is grand.

Originally Posted by shockandawe (Post 4032405)

Divde the community? Everybody makes up their own minds and everybody expresses their own opinions. Just because I disagree with most on this site about the greatness of the ZL1 doesn't mean I should be silenced.
In my driveway sits a 01 Impala, 06 Corvette, 07 Silverado, and my 10 SS Camaro. My three kids all drive GM products. I've been driving GM products since I was 18. I have bought them when they were built like crap and I have had my share of good ones. When everybody was screaming, let GM go bankrupt I ordered my Camaro. I kept the faith, I preached to my kids, buy GM.
Now your asking me to lay out 55k of my hard earned money for a car that appears to be 2nd in it's class. For this amount of money I don't want 2nd, it's gotta be 1st. It's gotta be the baddest ass pony car out there. If you guys have to go back to the drawing board so be it. Like I said, I'll wait for the comparisons. I don't need anybody on this site telling me I don't intend to buy the ZL1, make it the "BEST" and I'll order one in a heartbeat. If not, I'll just buy another GM product.......... because GM is in my blood.
At least we can agree to disagree.

Originally Posted by tooslow (Post 4032277)

They've already said they would not:

Originally Posted by kannon (Post 4029525)

Hey I tried Googling it first...no hits. But I guess it's easier to post the most ******-out emoticon on this site instead of answering a simple question.

Originally Posted by Z4me (Post 4032069)

This will be my very first camaro, when I first saw these 5th gen camaro's on the roads. I said damn what was car I just saw me past me? I said to myself that's the style I want in my next car. I guess alot of America
felt the same way as me! GM has it out of the park
with the 5th gen camaro, and the mustang could learn
a few lessons from it. HP is nice but it's just one piece
of the puzzle in making a complete full package of a car.

The ZL1 is the total package, and I'm going to enjoy it every day I'm on the drivers seat cruising down the highway. Thank you to everyone associated with the production of the ZL1 a reality for many of us to enjoy.
In closing long live the pony wars, because with out them there's no motivation for the car manufactures to push there game to the next level!

Originally Posted by toilets (Post 4032885)

Id love to hear from one of the engineers in GM or Fbodfather from a marketing/business standpoint and get their reaction to this news... Either people are being quiet for a reason (Ie got caught with their pants down) or they really have nothing to worry about in regards to Fords response to the Zl1.