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DrkPhx 12-04-2012 09:28 PM

K&N ZL1 Carbon fiber Intake
 
I saw this on lsxtv.com. Looks pretty nice and advertises 32 rwhp and 40 ft-lbs of torque without a tune.

http://www.lsxtv.com/features/pri-co...filter-option/

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To back up the good looks are great power gains – 32 rwhp and 40 lb/ft of torque…that’s at the wheels folks. “We increased the size of the mass air flow (MAF) housing as large as we could with the stock Camaro calibration,” explained Heck. “That means you get an air intake that bolts on easily and doesn’t require any tuning.”
http://cdn.lsxtv.com/image/2012/11/MG2_6182.jpg

babytiger 12-04-2012 09:31 PM

looks like the other ones, without a lid though

hognutz 12-04-2012 11:40 PM

wonder what the price is?

IcePick06 12-06-2012 07:46 PM

I would hope one of the site sponsors will chime in if they sell K&N products and maybe hook up a group buy! I just read about this here:

http://www.dragzine.com/features/pri...filter-option/

32rwhp and 40 lbs/ft torque with no tune sounds great to me :D looks like they maximized the MAF for the most airflow possible within the stock parameters to achieve these results...CF always looks real pretty too :wub:

Mikes SS 12-06-2012 07:53 PM

I'd say holy crap if those #'s were true just out of a CAI but I find it very hard to believe

yoshie 12-06-2012 08:04 PM

http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/...NFilter002.jpghttp://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/...NFilter003.jpghttp://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/...NFilter001.jpg

on my car,work's and looks bad ass and yes true #'s

Rhyder 12-06-2012 08:13 PM

32 rwhp and 40 lb/ft? an air filter adding that? I would have to see the before and after Dyno on an independent machine before believing that......

13GreyVert 12-06-2012 08:43 PM

Part number? Can't seem to find it on their website. Says not available for both 2012 & 2013.

v6sonoma 12-07-2012 10:23 AM

Part #63-3079

I don't think it's live yet since they just unveiled it. That's the number they listed on their product stand at SEMA.

yoshie 12-07-2012 02:01 PM

here's some numbers




http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/...12chart029.jpg

yoshie 12-07-2012 02:03 PM

K&N used my car for making the new fitting for the kit. They also dyno tested it too.

hognutz 12-07-2012 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by yoshie (Post 5889988)
K&N used my car for making the new fitting for the kit. They also dyno tested it too.

dyno with hood up or hood down?

jimmy5 12-07-2012 06:01 PM

I wonder what the price will be.

Mattzl1 12-07-2012 06:54 PM

I would be very suprised if it didn't require a tune

One-Bad-ZL1 12-07-2012 07:01 PM

34 HP & 17 tq. Not the claimed gain for torque but not to shabby. I too wonder what we'll be paying for this.

Enough 12-07-2012 08:01 PM

The humidity and temperature are quite different between the two runs. Plus the torque is shifted up for the entire K&N run. I'm sure it is a nice intake as all K&N products are I just think the dyno runs are sort of strange.

DrkPhx 12-08-2012 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Enough (Post 5891218)
The humidity and temperature are quite different between the two runs. Plus the torque is shifted up for the entire K&N run. I'm sure it is a nice intake as all K&N products are I just think the dyno runs are sort of strange.

Those are SAE corrected numbers so that's what's the correction factor is for, plus they have the torque on a different graph than hp where normally they displayed on the same graph. I would like to see the A/F for both runs.

The real question (holds true for all CAI testing) is was the ECT and IAT2 the same or similar between the two runs to get a real back to back comparison? I mention this because when I dyno'd mine bone stock it picked up 24 rwhp (511 vs 535) and 10 ft-lbs of torque just by letting it cool down.

Enough 12-08-2012 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DrkPhx (Post 5892666)
Those are SAE corrected numbers so that's what's the correction factor is for, plus they have the torque on a different graph than hp where normally they displayed on the same graph. I would like to see the A/F for both runs.

The real question (holds true for all CAI testing) is was the ECT and IAT2 the same or similar between the two runs to get a real back to back comparison? I mention this because when I dyno'd mine bone stock it picked up 24 rwhp (511 vs 535) and 10 ft-lbs of torque just by letting it cool down.

I appreciate your comments on how much IAT can affect torque and horsepower both through the ECM detecting knock and pulling timing and a lower density charge.
The SAE corrections which I mentioned are sometimes used as dials instead of factual conditions to manipulate dyno curves.

IcePick06 12-13-2012 03:40 PM

This and the Roto Fab both looks sweet as they have CF construction and put up good numbers without a tune. The K&N looks like it produces a little more HP but I will wait to see the price before making a decision. I contacted K&N about this product and they said it's not yet available but it should be sometime in January

One-Bad-ZL1 12-13-2012 03:45 PM

So the race is on. K&N or CAI....who will make it to market first and will my mod dollars?

jimmy5 12-13-2012 05:50 PM

I'm going with either this one, or the roto-fab. CAI is no longer an option for me.

Tyler H 12-14-2012 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyler H (Post 5898880)
Looks like some Roto Fab competition. Nice to have a choice of no tune cai!

Ordered the Roto Fab yesterday. No worries!

JWR046 12-21-2012 08:50 AM

I am going to get a CAI and probably a crank pulley but stay within factory tune once my car comes out of hibernation. So I always wonder why the car does not come with a CAI from the factory as the gains are pretty good. The gt500 has one from factory.

Combover 01-05-2013 07:11 PM

Any news from K&N ?

Richy_Rich 01-08-2013 04:05 PM

Nice!

Unreal 01-09-2013 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by One-Bad-SS (Post 5891048)
34 HP & 17 tq. Not the claimed gain for torque but not to shabby. I too wonder what we'll be paying for this.

You are looking at the peak numbers. Down lower it does look like better torque gains. They should be more specific and say 40ft/lbs at 4000rpm or something, not 40 ftlbs peak.

mmarx82 01-11-2013 09:13 PM

So does C5 have any K&N sellers, I want this over the Roto-Fab...

http://cdn.dragzine.com/image/2012/11/MG2_6188.jpg

Iroc-ZL1 01-23-2013 05:15 PM

K&N ZL1
 
:happyanim:Just got off the phone with K&N and placed order for new ZL1 intake it is now available

FINALLYSATISFIED 01-23-2013 05:19 PM

Hmm no tune required? Decisions...

Iroc-ZL1 01-23-2013 05:32 PM

yess sir no tune required , i had to re-assure myself $799.00

FINALLYSATISFIED 01-23-2013 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Iroc-ZL1 (Post 6073895)
yess sir no tune required , i had to re-assure myself $799.00

$799 for what? That? Hell no.

Iroc-ZL1 01-23-2013 05:49 PM

lol yeah whole CF intake set-up for $799 plus tax

Speechsteve 01-23-2013 07:47 PM

It just might be magical....hey, I know a guy who's got some beans if anyone is interested?

16floz470ml 01-23-2013 09:06 PM

I think this one is actually made out of carbon fiber. That would be why it cost so much. Very nice but think I will go with the Roto-fab for the money.

FINALLYSATISFIED 01-23-2013 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 16floz470ml (Post 6074751)
I think this one is actually made out of carbon fiber. That would be why it cost so much. Very nice but think I will go with the Roto-fab for the money.

+1

ZED SLED 01-24-2013 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iroc-ZL1 (Post 6073895)
yess sir no tune required , i had to re-assure myself $799.00

At that price I would expect it would come with a great big bag of weed because they're obviously smoking a lot of it.

red67 01-24-2013 08:40 AM

no one here has obviously purchased any real carbon fiber stuff lately

ZED SLED 01-24-2013 10:37 AM

Guess I'm just not seeing the advantage here. I wouldn't think carbon fiber flows any better. Maybe it does. I don't see a weight advantage on a 4000+lb car. Why not use ceramic coated Al or ABS or something that will make it cost effective. Sure, it looks good a hi-tech and all. Hell, plate it with gold. Just sayin'

Iroc-ZL1 01-24-2013 10:38 AM

You gotta pay to play....

red67 01-24-2013 10:42 AM

only reason i want it is to match the hood! i wouldnt have a problem with the hydro stuff, if the hood werent real carbon


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