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craigd853 04-19-2024 05:37 PM

New Suspension Parts Trouble
 
Hello, I have a question for you guys. I have a 2010 camaro ss with Pedders coil overs I just put on the car. I lowered the car 1 inch all the way around and I also put new BMR non adjustable rear control arms along with UMI control arms on the rear. I have had my car to two different shops and they cannot get the tow straight on the rear end. The last shop completely screwed everything up and now my left rear cv joint is clicking while driving down the road. This second shop also told me that the reason they couldnt get the toe in on the rear was because the cradle was bent. This car has 30,000 miles on it and has been babied. I need help to know what to look for or who to take this to who knows what they are doing. I first took it to the dealer who at least had it steering straight. This past time I got the car back from the second shop my steering wheel is off center and like I said there is a clicking noise that sounds like its coming from the left rear. Never had any issues before changing to the coilovers and rear upgrades that I mentioned earlier. I looked at the rear cradle and the marks on the cradle are from me putting jack stands under the cradle not from it being torqued. Perplexed that it's this hard to find someone that knows what they are doing with this platform. Suggestions please

Joe.G 04-20-2024 07:18 AM

I had an issue getting my rear to the specs I wanted using the BMR Non adjustable rear control arms and only lowering an inch, They are meant for more than an inch and less then an inch the adjustable ones should be used. I did get some Detroit speed camber bolts for the rear and I did have to open up the adjustment slot a little on the cradle to get my spec. I suggest finding a competent shop that is familiar with performance alignments.

fz4k98 04-20-2024 07:36 AM

When a repair shop states they cannot achieve something because ... you need to ask them to show you the area that is bent. They could be just trying to excuse their behavior to get you out the door. No evidence is strictly an opinion.

I have been working on aligning the rear on my car and have seen how any change to one (ride height, camber, toe) will then throw off the others. Also, lowering a car can limit the adjustablility of the camber bolts. Last year I switched to adjusting the toe to allow me to place the camber bolts back toward center and allow more adjustability which when camber is reajusted will then realign toe.

You may be able to find a good mechanic by contacting any performance shops around. Some do not do their alignments but have a go to shop for them.

craigd853 04-21-2024 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by craigd853 (Post 11419548)
Hello, I have a question for you guys. I have a 2010 camaro ss with Pedders coil overs I just put on the car. I lowered the car 1 inch all the way around and I also put new BMR non adjustable rear control arms along with UMI control arms on the rear. I have had my car to two different shops and they cannot get the tow straight on the rear end. The last shop completely screwed everything up and now my left rear cv joint is clicking while driving down the road. This second shop also told me that the reason they couldnt get the toe in on the rear was because the cradle was bent. This car has 30,000 miles on it and has been babied. I need help to know what to look for or who to take this to who knows what they are doing. I first took it to the dealer who at least had it steering straight. This past time I got the car back from the second shop my steering wheel is off center and like I said there is a clicking noise that sounds like its coming from the left rear. Never had any issues before changing to the coilovers and rear upgrades that I mentioned earlier. I looked at the rear cradle and the marks on the cradle are from me putting jack stands under the cradle not from it being torqued. Perplexed that it's this hard to find someone that knows what they are doing with this platform. Suggestions please

Thanks for the suggestions guys, and I'm currently trying to find a shop here in the Baltimore area who knows what they are doing as I already have 750.00 in two different shops with no results just excuses. Appreciate the help

MSgt O 04-21-2024 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by craigd853 (Post 11419806)
Thanks for the suggestions guys, and I'm currently trying to find a shop here in the Baltimore area who knows what they are doing as I already have 750.00 in two different shops with no results just excuses. Appreciate the help

call a well known speed shop and ask who they would use like he said. Best advice Ive gotten came from the guys who do this kind of work.

trashbasket 04-24-2024 08:46 AM

https://www.phastekperformance.com/2...mber-87430.htm


I had to use those to get my stuff right. Like others have said, very doubtful something is bent. In my case I just needed more adjustment room after all the upgrades.

The_bald_eagle_machine 04-24-2024 09:24 AM

I was able to get my car within good specs using BcRacing coilovers and the fixed BMR lower control arms. I did have to take it to 3 different shops before it was right though. The third time I took it to a speed shop and had them align it. Best alignment I ever had done. Car tracks straight as an arrow, and is tight. When I had the discount tire and local tire shops align the car it was never right.

trashbasket 04-24-2024 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The_bald_eagle_machine (Post 11420633)
I was able to get my car within good specs using BcRacing coilovers and the fixed BMR lower control arms. I did have to take it to 3 different shops before it was right though. The third time I took it to a speed shop and had them align it. Best alignment I ever had done. Car tracks straight as an arrow, and is tight. When I had the discount tire and local tire shops align the car it was never right.



Yea, that's been my experience as well. I had to take car 2.5 hours away to get it aligned and suspension dialed in correctly. Even went out and did some street hits with the shop owner to be sure. I should have mentioned that. You have to take it somewhere experienced in doing a "racing alignment" or something like it. Regular spot ain't gonna cut it unfortunately. Some places you are lucky if they even put a wrench on the alignment bolts.

"did you guys clock the bushings?"
"sure did"
yea right:mad0260:

Rusty Shackleford 05-03-2024 07:44 PM

My advise is to read this thread thoroughly.



https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71994


There is a wealth of information scattered throughout. There's also a particular post that outlines the procedure for setting the rear toe and camber, and a lot of other info as well. I printed it out and keep it in the file for my car both digital and hard copy. As I'm amassing parts for a suspension upgrade now myself, I am consulting the thread often to make sure the things I'm doing should play nicely together while achieving my goals.



I literally interviewed a half dozen different alignment techs before I chose the one I'd let work on my car. Had a couple of shops tell me they didn't have time for me to talk to the tech, I walked out. Each of us are different, but I refuse to drop my car off somewhere and walk away without knowing who will be working on my car. Most often I'm lurking around, learning as well as monitoring. Not making myself a nuisance, but available if the least little problem arises.. Even my local tire shop has only one guy who's allowed to touch my vehicles. I don't want special treatment, but I do expect the quality of service to match the $$ I'm paying for.

Unaf-Ford-able 05-08-2024 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty Shackleford (Post 11422777)
My advise is to read this thread thoroughly.



https://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71994


There is a wealth of information scattered throughout. There's also a particular post that outlines the procedure for setting the rear toe and camber, and a lot of other info as well. I printed it out and keep it in the file for my car both digital and hard copy. As I'm amassing parts for a suspension upgrade now myself, I am consulting the thread often to make sure the things I'm doing should play nicely together while achieving my goals.

I literally interviewed a half dozen different alignment techs before I chose the one I'd let work on my car. Had a couple of shops tell me they didn't have time for me to talk to the tech, I walked out. Each of us are different, but I refuse to drop my car off somewhere and walk away without knowing who will be working on my car. Most often I'm lurking around, learning as well as monitoring. Not making myself a nuisance, but available if the least little problem arises.. Even my local tire shop has only one guy who's allowed to touch my vehicles. I don't want special treatment, but I do expect the quality of service to match the $$ I'm paying for.

I find it fascinating that the 'Caster Eccentrics' mentioned in regards to Pedders appear to be no longer available.

Also, in regards to your last sentence, hell yes, most shops I am familiar with here of late are all ran by sociopath shop owners who hire the cheapest labor available and then charge dealership rates for their work.


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