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sonic525 · 05-07-2014, 10:08 AM

Thank you Jeepguy_1980.
Ok so i will not be able to use this with RCAs to the 3sixty.3. That is to bad. I already got the RCA and connecters need for this.

Will this work:
Stock head unit - AA-GM44(Cut the leads that go to the Pac along with the Blue amp turn on wire) - Run this with a speed wire to the trunk and connect to the 3sixty.3 via high levels.

I plan on running new speaker wires from my amp to all speakers so do not need to go back to the harness correct?

patroklai · 06-09-2014, 02:30 PM

What's the consensus on the remote amp wire? the blue or blue/white? I'm getting a loud thump when turning off the car. The theory using the blue wire (I believe because the HU turns off before the amp).

jeepguy_1980 · 06-09-2014, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patroklai

What's the consensus on the remote amp wire? the blue or blue/white? I'm getting a loud thump when turning off the car. The theory using the blue wire (I believe because the HU turns off before the amp).

The remote amp wire is a an actual remote amp wire. It will turn your amp off, you know this because your amp is powered off when you look at it an the radio is off. Just like when you turn the radio on, the amp powers up.

The reason for the pop is that the radio is shutting down faster than your amp. Part of this is because the remote amp wire slowly drops to 0 volts. While the radio shuts off quicker.

I think a pull down resistor would fix the problem, but I haven't tried it.

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InkAddict765 · 06-09-2014, 09:35 PM

I installed all this today and i'm getting a loud pop too when the car is shut off. Also my turn signals and door chimes are VERY loud now lol. Is there any fix to this?

patroklai · 06-09-2014, 09:38 PM

Your amp gains are too high. Set them to the middle or lower and crank the volume on your head unit.

patroklai · 06-09-2014, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeepguy_1980

The remote amp wire is a an actual remote amp wire. It will turn your amp off, you know this because your amp is powered off when you look at it an the radio is off. Just like when you turn the radio on, the amp powers up.

The reason for the pop is that the radio is shutting down faster than your amp. Part of this is because the remote amp wire slowly drops to 0 volts. While the radio shuts off quicker.

I think a pull down resistor would fix the problem, but I haven't tried it.

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Doesn't the pull down resistor change the voltage? I've seen it used when an aftermarket head unit sends 12v to an amp that's expecting 5v.

In our case we'd need the reverse? I believe most aftermarket amps require 12v remote. Not sure what our factory head unit is sending.

InkAddict765 · 06-09-2014, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patroklai

Your amp gains are too high. Set them to the middle or lower and crank the volume on your head unit.

Okay thanks man!

Airmaster · 06-13-2014, 10:35 PM

So I found this LOC on ebay for $25 but they say a button is missing, can I still just get this harness since the loc part won't actually be used?

I'm finally buying everything I need. Also, do I need to buy ZISL harnesses or is the GM44 the only thing I need?? Plus extra wiring for speakers and such...

patroklai · 06-14-2014, 01:13 AM

Update on my install... Installed using the ZISLs and the harness and ditched the PAC LOC. Had all kinds of problems with the rear channel. Had a bad ZISL. Then split signal from front ZISL and all is good. My 4 channel amp has a rca out that feeds my sub amp. All was well until I drove the car hard. Upon acceleration, electric noise entered the speakers. It's like as if it was possessed. I turned off the radio but could not get this demonic sound to stop. I turned off the car to make it stop.

I'll be installing the PAC LOC tomorrow as I think my amp does not like the high level input. I made sure my grounds and power all look good. I also use a capacitor and have ran aftermarket setups many times in the past. However, this is my first time attempting to do it using a factory head unit that does not support amp pre outs. Aaaah

jeepguy_1980 · 06-15-2014, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patroklai

Update on my install... Installed using the ZISLs and the harness and ditched the PAC LOC. Had all kinds of problems with the rear channel. Had a bad ZISL. Then split signal from front ZISL and all is good. My 4 channel amp has a rca out that feeds my sub amp. All was well until I drove the car hard. Upon acceleration, electric noise entered the speakers. It's like as if it was possessed. I turned off the radio but could not get this demonic sound to stop. I turned off the car to make it stop.

I'll be installing the PAC LOC tomorrow as I think my amp does not like the high level input. I made sure my grounds and power all look good. I also use a capacitor and have ran aftermarket setups many times in the past. However, this is my first time attempting to do it using a factory head unit that does not support amp pre outs. Aaaah

Not all amps allows for a high level input. I still wouldn't use the PAC LOC. There are good LOCs and the PAC isn't one of them.

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patroklai · 06-15-2014, 03:28 PM

Used the LOC and car sounds the same or better that with the ZISL. The ZISLs weren't bad. Apparently my head unit had messed up rear channels but was able to get signal from front to feed my whole system. All is good now. If anyone needs ZISLs shoot me a PM.

InkAddict765 · 06-15-2014, 08:00 PM

Im having the same problems man. I dont know if i got bad zisl's or what. Im not having any problem with the rear speakers. only the fronts. They work fine until i turn it up about halfway then the fronts start making horrible popping sounds and cutting in and out. I guess im gonna ditch the zisl's and try the pac loc for now just to try and figure out what the problem is.

patroklai · 06-15-2014, 08:22 PM

I agree. Do that and update the thread..

760bowtie · 09-09-2014, 08:44 PM

So I bought the LOC and the rest of the stuff needed, then cut the harness, soldered all the wires, connected everything to the stock HU, ran the wires to the trunk, hooked up the amps and turned on the car to test everything. Music played fine but the screen on the mylink stereo won't turn on.

I call PAC technical support only to find out the LOC is not compatible with my car.

Is it possible to splice in to the rear speakers with speaker wire to rca harness (no loc) and then split the rca signal for a 4 channel amp? Kinda what patroklai did.

06-13-2014, 10:35 PM	#92
Airmaster Go Gators! Drives: Camaro Jeep Abarth 944 325i Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: CT Posts: 844	So I found this LOC on ebay for $25 but they say a button is missing, can I still just get this harness since the loc part won't actually be used? I'm finally buying everything I need. Also, do I need to buy ZISL harnesses or is the GM44 the only thing I need?? Plus extra wiring for speakers and such... __________________ '13 Camaro, '97 Wrangler, '12 500 Abarth, '85.5 944, '06 325i Suspension Mods: BMR and JPSS Sways, BMR Poly Bushings, BMR strut tower brace, BMR control arms, BMR toe arms, stock springs and struts Engine Mods: All bolt ons (haha) Brake Mods: Brembo SS caliper swap front and rear

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05-07-2014, 10:08 AM	#85
sonic525 Drives: 2013 Camaro LT Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: CA Posts: 51	Thank you Jeepguy_1980. Ok so i will not be able to use this with RCAs to the 3sixty.3. That is to bad. I already got the RCA and connecters need for this. Will this work: Stock head unit - AA-GM44(Cut the leads that go to the Pac along with the Blue amp turn on wire) - Run this with a speed wire to the trunk and connect to the 3sixty.3 via high levels. I plan on running new speaker wires from my amp to all speakers so do not need to go back to the harness correct?

06-09-2014, 02:30 PM	#86
patroklai Enthusiast Drives: Camaro SS \| e92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Saint Louis Posts: 613	What's the consensus on the remote amp wire? the blue or blue/white? I'm getting a loud thump when turning off the car. The theory using the blue wire (I believe because the HU turns off before the amp).

06-09-2014, 09:35 PM	#88
InkAddict765 Drives: 2013 Camaro Ls2 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Indiana Posts: 11	I installed all this today and i'm getting a loud pop too when the car is shut off. Also my turn signals and door chimes are VERY loud now lol. Is there any fix to this?

06-09-2014, 09:38 PM	#89
patroklai Enthusiast Drives: Camaro SS \| e92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Saint Louis Posts: 613	Your amp gains are too high. Set them to the middle or lower and crank the volume on your head unit.

06-14-2014, 01:13 AM	#93
patroklai Enthusiast Drives: Camaro SS \| e92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Saint Louis Posts: 613	Update on my install... Installed using the ZISLs and the harness and ditched the PAC LOC. Had all kinds of problems with the rear channel. Had a bad ZISL. Then split signal from front ZISL and all is good. My 4 channel amp has a rca out that feeds my sub amp. All was well until I drove the car hard. Upon acceleration, electric noise entered the speakers. It's like as if it was possessed. I turned off the radio but could not get this demonic sound to stop. I turned off the car to make it stop. I'll be installing the PAC LOC tomorrow as I think my amp does not like the high level input. I made sure my grounds and power all look good. I also use a capacitor and have ran aftermarket setups many times in the past. However, this is my first time attempting to do it using a factory head unit that does not support amp pre outs. Aaaah

06-15-2014, 03:28 PM	#95
patroklai Enthusiast Drives: Camaro SS \| e92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Saint Louis Posts: 613	Used the LOC and car sounds the same or better that with the ZISL. The ZISLs weren't bad. Apparently my head unit had messed up rear channels but was able to get signal from front to feed my whole system. All is good now. If anyone needs ZISLs shoot me a PM.

06-15-2014, 08:00 PM	#96
InkAddict765 Drives: 2013 Camaro Ls2 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Indiana Posts: 11	Im having the same problems man. I dont know if i got bad zisl's or what. Im not having any problem with the rear speakers. only the fronts. They work fine until i turn it up about halfway then the fronts start making horrible popping sounds and cutting in and out. I guess im gonna ditch the zisl's and try the pac loc for now just to try and figure out what the problem is.

06-15-2014, 08:22 PM	#97
patroklai Enthusiast Drives: Camaro SS \| e92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Saint Louis Posts: 613	I agree. Do that and update the thread..

09-09-2014, 08:44 PM	#98
760bowtie Drives: 2014 1SS/RS, 2018 Silverado CC Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 1,487	So I bought the LOC and the rest of the stuff needed, then cut the harness, soldered all the wires, connected everything to the stock HU, ran the wires to the trunk, hooked up the amps and turned on the car to test everything. Music played fine but the screen on the mylink stereo won't turn on. I call PAC technical support only to find out the LOC is not compatible with my car. Is it possible to splice in to the rear speakers with speaker wire to rca harness (no loc) and then split the rca signal for a 4 channel amp? Kinda what patroklai did.