Difference between Trifecta and IPF

[BNRacing]

I keep pushing Vince to look into launch control. He's got some other priorities at the moment with all this new stuff coming for ezflash so pretty much all development is on hold for now, other than the LFX select-a-tune stuff (that will be ported over to the LLT if it proves to be a hit)

[2011 RJT]

I sleep well. If I said we went or did something,the people I'm telling it to would tend to believe you and I did it together. Correct? Maybe now you get the point. Its for marketing. If people believe there is a better connection,trust comes. Turns into $. I'm not the only one who has asked who "we" is on here. If you're cool with someone making themselves out to be more,than thats on you. I on the other hand questioned it. And because of that the smartass comments fly. You don't have to be a smartass. I don't know why everyone is having a hard time getting in contact with Vince. Like it or not, it is what it is.

Originally Posted by OOLIE

Yes you win on a technicality. So should we silence the only person in direct contact to Vince and his tunes. Vince isn't going to post I can promise that as it really isn't his style. Just let BNR have a voice and just pretend when he says us he is saying us as a group. Hope that helps you sleep.

[2011 RJT]

What he said.

Originally Posted by SNV

I have no tune but have been following this thread. Nothing for nothing you sure use the word "We" when talking about Trifecta. You make yourself sound like more then just a vendor. Out of all the bashing in this thread most looks to be coming from you towards the IPF tune. I have been following the Trifecta tune since it first came out. I didn't jump on it because I didn't think the gains was worth the (when it was first replaced). I was also waiting to see what else if anything was released. I was temped to buy it from you when you were running the sale. You have had the best prices I have seen. I have read nothing but good things about your service. With that said your bashing of the IPF tune is stooping a little low. That should all be below you. Your really not making yourself look good. It's all reminding me of the Airaid thread.

[BNRacing]

Originally Posted by 2011 RJT

I sleep well. If I said we went or did something,the people I'm telling it to would tend to believe you and I did it together. Correct? Maybe now you get the point. Its for marketing. If people believe there is a better connection,trust comes. Turns into $. I'm not the only one who has asked who "we" is on here. If you're cool with someone making themselves out to be more,than thats on you. I on the other hand questioned it. And because of that the smartass comments fly. You don't have to be a smartass. I don't know why everyone is having a hard time getting in contact with Vince. Like it or not, it is what it is.

It's not some marketing gimmick, I already said I help Vince develop new features for different cars. I'm the one that got him to do Launch Control on the LSJ cars for example. You keep saying its for marketing, well who am I marketing to? Everyone in this thread already has a trifecta tune, so its not like I'm going to sell anyone anything. That's what I keep trying to get you to understand, it doesn't affect me at all if you guys all decide right now to switch to another tune. I don't have anything to lose and I don't have anything to gain by you keeping your trifecta tunes. It's not like I'm going to sell you a tune a second time or something. You aren't paying me to get you an update for your car. You aren't paying me to convince Vince to do launch control and selectatune for the LLT. The sale has already been made, this is all stuff I'm working on for free. Take it, here it is, no strings attached, no fees, its free, thanks for being a customer. That's it. What do I have to gain from "deceptive" marketing?

[gml1998]

Originally Posted by BNRacing

It's not some marketing gimmick, I already said I help Vince develop new features for different cars. I'm the one that got him to do Launch Control on the LSJ cars for example. You keep saying its for marketing, well who am I marketing to? Everyone in this thread already has a trifecta tune, so its not like I'm going to sell anyone anything. That's what I keep trying to get you to understand, it doesn't affect me at all if you guys all decide right now to switch to another tune. I don't have anything to lose and I don't have anything to gain by you keeping your trifecta tunes. It's not like I'm going to sell you a tune a second time or something. You aren't paying me to get you an update for your car. You aren't paying me to convince Vince to do launch control and selectatune for the LLT. The sale has already been made, this is all stuff I'm working on for free. Take it, here it is, no strings attached, no fees, its free, thanks for being a customer. That's it. What do I have to gain from "deceptive" marketing?

You guys do a great job. Keep doing what you are doing.

[2011 RJT]

Originally Posted by BNRacing

It's not some marketing gimmick, I already said I help Vince develop new features for different cars. I'm the one that got him to do Launch Control on the LSJ cars for example. You keep saying its for marketing, well who am I marketing to? Everyone in this thread already has a trifecta tune, so its not like I'm going to sell anyone anything. That's what I keep trying to get you to understand, it doesn't affect me at all if you guys all decide right now to switch to another tune. I don't have anything to lose and I don't have anything to gain by you keeping your trifecta tunes. It's not like I'm going to sell you a tune a second time or something. You aren't paying me to get you an update for your car. You aren't paying me to convince Vince to do launch control and selectatune for the LLT. The sale has already been made, this is all stuff I'm working on for free. Take it, here it is, no strings attached, no fees, its free, thanks for being a customer. That's it. What do I have to gain from "deceptive" marketing?

I've said my peace, you've said yours. In my mind its over. I also made note you have done other good things for the scene. Thats not even in question. I guess people are always going to have all kinds of comments,good or bad. Thats whats great about forums. Everyone can have a voice. Maybe I didn't word everything the way I wanted,I never was a writer. Now lets get back to our regularly scheduled program!

[BNRacing]

Originally Posted by 2011 RJT

I've said my peace, you've said yours. In my mind its over. I also made note you have done other good things for the scene. Thats not even in question. I guess people are always going to have all kinds of comments,good or bad. Thats whats great about forums. Everyone can have a voice. Maybe I didn't word everything the way I wanted,I never was a writer. Now lets get back to our regularly scheduled program!

I agree, no hard feelings.

[SNV]

Originally Posted by BNRacing

Everyone in this thread already has a trifecta tune, so its not like I'm going to sell anyone anything.

Not everyone .

['11CamaroLS]

well I appreciate all that Jerry @BNR does. I got the best price from him and he is still easy to get ahold of. Keep pushing for us LLT guys!

[OOLIE]

Originally Posted by '11CamaroLS

well I appreciate all that Jerry @BNR does. I got the best price from him and he is still easy to get ahold of. Keep pushing for us LLT guys!

+1 and I didn't buy from them

Also would like to add sorry for sounding like a smart ass. I just want open communication.

[KMPrenger]

BNR has been great at getting us the Trifecta tune at a great price...no doubt about that.

As for a possibility of closing this thread....I really hope that does not happen b/c scattered throughout this thread, is some really good information. I see no reason for it to close at this point though.

[KMPrenger]

Oh, and SNV. You mention possibly trading up yours for a 2012 or 2013.

I saw earlier in a different thread that GM changed the PCM on the 2013s from the 2012s, so I'm not sure if all these 2012 tunes would work for a 2013 or not. Might be something for you to consider.

[SNV]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Oh, and SNV. You mention possibly trading up yours for a 2012 or 2013.

I saw earlier in a different thread that GM changed the PCM on the 2013s from the 2012s, so I'm not sure if all these 2012 tunes would work for a 2013 or not. Might be something for you to consider.

Thanks for the info! I found a 2012 with 224 miles that I might go look at.

[BNRacing]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Oh, and SNV. You mention possibly trading up yours for a 2012 or 2013.

I saw earlier in a different thread that GM changed the PCM on the 2013s from the 2012s, so I'm not sure if all these 2012 tunes would work for a 2013 or not. Might be something for you to consider.

The 2013 uses a different ECM than the 2012 and I know for sure that HPTuners can't get into the 2013s as of this post. I don't know about ipf being able to or not. Trifecta has tuned several 2013s already though.