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SicSix6 · 08-03-2009, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibznu2010

I got the Hennesey. You can here the diffrence of the amount of air coming in the engine. Seems to be working well for me & i love the extra sound under the hood under full throttle.

HMMMM, this is one of the most interesting comments I have ever heard from someone about a cold air induction system. Generally the idea isn't to have more noise, rather you want to increase power and throttle response. I could care less about how the air sounds.

dagolfguy · 08-03-2009, 09:38 AM

I'm curious, why would the CAI get hot? Doesn't that defeat the purpose?

SGOS252382 · 08-03-2009, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagolfguy

I'm curious, why would the CAI get hot? Doesn't that defeat the purpose?

CIA's do get hot because they're under the hood with the engine (gets very hot under there). The CIA's that are NOT made of plastic tend to get extremely hot.

That's why most companies use plastic intake tubes for their intakes.

SGOS252382 · 08-03-2009, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SicSix6

HMMMM, this is one of the most interesting comments I have ever heard from someone about a cold air induction system. Generally the idea isn't to have more noise, rather you want to increase power and throttle response. I could care less about how the air sounds.

CIA's are known for increasing engine/intake noise. Some guys like it, others don't.

The stock OEM intake is designed to be very quiet.

2SSRS@Gen5diy · 08-03-2009, 10:21 AM

The reason for a CAI is not extra sound under the hood ( if you want more sound pull of the air box ), Or the look you like better (buy a chrome cover), It is more power in your car, Faster ETA's and Faster mile an hour, and faster 0-60 times, That is the test of a good CAI, at this time i think that is a VaraRam, That is what works on a vett all the high $ CAI from all the rest don't come closes.

benjj · 08-03-2009, 10:30 AM

ZZ, you said you sell all 3(roto-fab, vararam, and new era) possible you can get us a shot of all 3 together for a visual comparison. i kno the new era is all metal but haven't seen the other 2. thx

*radz28* · 08-03-2009, 10:31 AM

IMVHO, the Vararam (pending...), New ERA, and Fastlane(?) are probably going to be optimal in terms of performance because they are getting the coolest air, since it comes from outside the engine compartment. However, at the same time, there are many who say that because the air is in the intake system for so little time that heatsoak isn't a really a concern. What I know is that my '02 was very sensitive to air temperature.

I think the intake test proposed in another thread would be a great test (if done correctly) to determine if there is a clear "winner".

JMVHO.

Bewenched · 08-03-2009, 12:56 PM

I actually fabricated my own for less than 190.00

I'll be posting about it soon.

*radz28* · 08-03-2009, 01:03 PM

Spectre?

rodimus prime · 08-03-2009, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herkman

I bought the Hennessey and was completely disapointed with it. I had a severe MPG drop and the system got too hot to touch. It was recommended that I run a few tankfulls of gas throught the car so after about 450 more miles on the car, nothing improved. I have decided to get the plastic RotoFab system, so in the meantime I put my factory air intake back on. Guess what.......my MPG went back up immediately with my next tankfull of gas. My car had gone from 22.5 to 14.5 and is now back up to 21. I reset the system everytime I fill up.

Your going to see a MGP drop with any CAI.

The intake is now getting more air for less effort. Well the maf says "shit Ive got more air to use, better dump in some more fuel."

Get it tuned.

Lloyd LeBaron · 08-03-2009, 05:59 PM

I wont be happy with any cold air intake that is just a filter under a hot hood.

TEAMBADDASS · 08-03-2009, 07:03 PM

happy with LMR's...One of the first camaro's to hit mid 12's @111mph and 113mph in 90 deg. weather with just a cai & tune

Roto-fab 1 · 08-03-2009, 09:13 PM

Our intake for the G8 with the L76 (similar to L99) picks up 2-3 MPG on the highway. Our HEMI intake picks up an avg. of 1 1/2 MPG. These are the numbers we typically hear from our customers who watch their mileage closely. We expect our Camaro intake to have similar results. All other things being equal, if you truly increase efficiency you should see an increase in MPG. Additionally, many customers have positive comments on the extra sound from our intakes. When they put the pedal down in their hot rod, they want it to sound more like a hot rod!

Our intake will come standard with a black cross-link poly tube and a silver powder coated air box. The oiled filter shown is standard while the dry filter is optional. All configurations use our custom molded MAF sensor housing which has a "velocity stack" entry molded into the part. On one end it accepts the huge 6" mounting flange of the air filter. The other end uses a custom made 4 1/4" hump hose to help absorb motor rock. We use stock mounting points so installation is simple with absolutely no modifications to your vehicle.

The pic shown is our optional stainless steel polished tube. The polished tube has more "bling" and a higher price tag while the plastic tube is more subtle and has small performance advantages. We also have several air box colors and hose colors as well.

jeffny09 · 08-03-2009, 09:23 PM

yea but how much is the increase in power from the roto fab?
and how much is it?

08-03-2009, 10:31 AM	#21
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,207 View My Garage	IMVHO, the Vararam (pending...), New ERA, and Fastlane(?) are probably going to be optimal in terms of performance because they are getting the coolest air, since it comes from outside the engine compartment. However, at the same time, there are many who say that because the air is in the intake system for so little time that heatsoak isn't a really a concern. What I know is that my '02 was very sensitive to air temperature. I think the intake test proposed in another thread would be a great test (if done correctly) to determine if there is a clear "winner". JMVHO. __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

08-03-2009, 01:03 PM	#23
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,207 View My Garage	Spectre? __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

08-03-2009, 09:23 PM	#28
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