OnStar monitoring ECM changes?

[Partick]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

Since my original response, while accurate, does not reflect the complex relationship between OnStar and GM, allow me to elaborate.

When you get a tune, you are violating your warranty as far as your OEM is concerned. If your tune results in a problem that would otherwise fall under your powertrain warranty, you will be responsible for it.

OnStar can tell if some things are not original. OnStar, however, does not have any obligation to report potential warranty problems to GM. Besides, it is not possible for OnStar to tell if those issues are intentional tunes or just parameters that aren't correct by some sort of mistake. Rather than acting as spies for GM, OnStar has its own management and customer service structure.

In other words, GM serves you by providing you a product: your car. OnStar serves you by providing a service: vehicle telematics.

While OnStar was founded by and is owned by GM, OnStar does not report issues to GM. OnStar only reports to you, the customer, anything that might be wrong with your vehicle. If OnStar prioritizes warranty issues for GM, then it risks losing customers. People will complain that OnStar interfered with their warranty work and caused their warranties to be void. Instead, OnStar merely tells customers that something is outside of OEM parameters and asks you to schedule an appointment with your dealership. This is a great service for people who are completely stock and have a parameter out of whack. For tuners, you did this purposefully.

OnStar is a great service and a great value. For tuners, it is a little less of a service because its diagnostics will not be accurate. You've adjusted your parameters, causing OnStar to get some strange readings from your car. OnStar does not report these readings to GM's warranty department because it doesn't make sense to do so. Doing so will cost them customers, and their customers are dependent on an unnecessary service. Selling that service requires OnStar to cater to you, meaning that anything that could threaten your relationship with OnStar, including possible warranty issues, are not going to get reported.

Does that make more sense?

Yes it does, and as an aside it has saved lives and i know this first hand. Besides I've run my car very hard and have never been contacted by Onstar.

[Merc]

Originally Posted by SS Drifter

The Onstar lovers will say no and the Onstar haters will say yes. I would think that doing this would put GM in a grey area from a legal standpoint. I've disabled mine simply because I don't need Onstar and I have a better use for the Sharkfin antenna.

How do you diable Onstar?

[ROD1]

Hmmm, If I was putting out thousands of muscle cars and giving them a 5 yr 100,000 mile warranty, I would have my other company that can monitor them do so and send reports. So........

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by ROD1

Hmmm, If I was putting out thousands of muscle cars and giving them a 5 yr 100,000 mile warranty, I would have my other company that can monitor them do so and send reports. So........

In the process, you'd be required to pay hundreds of people for their time monitoring those reports only to save thousands of dollars on the few that actually perform some sort of warranty fraud. In doing so, you'd spend more than you save.

[2SSCAMARO]

Originally Posted by SonnyakaPig

LOL!! hahaha nice

Hey Fedor, you got ONstar in Stary Oskol?

[Riderover40]

Originally Posted by mercuryman96

How do you diable Onstar?

Push the button, when OnStar help answers.....tell them to disable. Or....... find the module in the trunk I belive and pull the plug! Now when it is stolen it cannot be tracked!

[PSP-SS]

OnStar is watching. Just like Santa Claus.

[Hylton]

Just disconnect the antenna wire.

[SS Matt]

My cell phone's GPS can tell what speed I'm travelling. I'm sure they relay that info to the highway patrol and police..........

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by SS Matt

My cell phone's GPS can tell what speed I'm travelling. I'm sure they relay that info to the highway patrol and police..........

I'm sure a certain political spectrum would love to see that happen but that is tinfoil hat material at the moment.

[paul2010]

Buy a guage or something that plugs into the OBD port and they can't run a diagnostic report. Here is what mine says when they email me.

OnStar Vehicle Diagnostics from your 2010 Chevrolet Camaro SS as of 04/26/2010

Dear Paul XXXXXX,

See your diagnostics report below for your vehicle's status.

Take advantage of Turn-by-Turn Navigation, included with your subscription. Voice-guided directions can take you almost anywhere. It's navigation at the touch of a button. Push your blue OnStar button to try it today.

VIN: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

GM Owner Center Online

No Issues Found Action Suggested Immediate Attention

Engine and Transmission System

We were unable to successfully complete a diagnostic test. This issue may be caused by an aftermarket device plugged into your vehicle's diagnostic port.
If an indicator light is lit on your dashboard, push your blue OnStar Button.

Emissions System

We were unable to successfully complete a diagnostic test. This issue may be caused by an aftermarket device plugged into your vehicle's diagnostic port.
If an indicator light is lit on your dashboard, push your blue OnStar Button.

Air Bag System

We were unable to successfully complete a diagnostic test. This issue may be caused by an aftermarket device plugged into your vehicle's diagnostic port.
If an indicator light is lit on your dashboard, push your blue OnStar Button.

StabiliTrak® Stability Control System

We were unable to successfully complete a diagnostic test. This issue may be caused by an aftermarket device plugged into your vehicle's diagnostic port.
If an indicator light is lit on your dashboard, push your blue OnStar Button.

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Antilock Braking System

We were unable to successfully complete a diagnostic test. This issue may be caused by an aftermarket device plugged into your vehicle's diagnostic port.
If an indicator light is lit on your dashboard, push your blue OnStar Button.