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driyac · 05-25-2012, 01:53 PM

I just want to know how those 4 cyl hold up to that much boost???? he has to be running 25lbs+ of boost. Like how is that possible ??????

camslambam · 05-25-2012, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by driyac

I just want to know how those 4 cyl hold up to that much boost???? he has to be running 25lbs+ of boost. Like how is that possible ??????

He has a built AMS car.... Completely built engine.

HufferSS · 05-25-2012, 02:13 PM

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I already got 1000HP axles going in. Toe rods, trailing arms, bushing kit back, bushing kit front, sway bar, subframe connector, driveshaft tunnel brace, end links for sway,end link mounting brace, driveshaft safety loop.... Just about everything suspension wise short of coil overs....

Yes. Stock tranny.

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He is running low 10's you can do that will 700 to the tire maybe less if everything works right with an auto. The problem with the evo is he cant drive which helps you.

It took Jamie a long time to run low 10's and that's race gas and a forged engine.

JLE58 · 05-25-2012, 02:24 PM

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It took Jamie a long time to run low 10's and that's race gas and a forged engine.

He did it with 675 hp

VADER SS L99 · 05-25-2012, 02:28 PM

I would say your going to need a new power adder and a new shortblock at minimum. Even if you overcome the weight disadvantage with power its going to be hard to put it down the way a AWD car can. My vote would be a large centri blower or turbo, minimum 3600 stall, minimum forged 416"ci. RHS 427 with some all pro LS7 heads would be better though and some suspension and drivetrain that will handle minimum 1.4 60'. I think that would do it. Sounds expensive though. I wouldnt wast my money upgrading the Maggie either. By the time you add up all the upgrades to make the TVS 2300 do 900RWHP you could of bought that centri or turbo setup I was talking about.

HufferSS · 05-25-2012, 02:38 PM

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He did it with 675 hp

He lies......a LOT!!

Supercharged SS · 05-25-2012, 04:24 PM

What did that Evo mph? Didn't really look that fast.

I'm pretty sure your fuel system won't support a 150 shot. Ted already has doubts that mine will.

Supercharged SS · 05-25-2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HufferSS

He lies......a LOT!!

Wtf. You know my car is stock!!

. Ok, can I say "like stock"?

Supercharged SS · 05-25-2012, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by VADER SS L99

I would say your going to need a new power adder and a new shortblock at minimum. Even if you overcome the weight disadvantage with power its going to be hard to put it down the way a AWD car can. My vote would be a large centri blower or turbo, minimum 3600 stall, minimum forged 416"ci. RHS 427 with some all pro LS7 heads would be better though and some suspension and drivetrain that will handle minimum 1.4 60'. I think that would do it. Sounds expensive though. I wouldnt wast my money upgrading the Maggie either. By the time you add up all the upgrades to make the TVS 2300 do 900RWHP you could of bought that centri or turbo setup I was talking about.

Youll will never get the Maggie close to 900 rwhp I don't care what anyone says. Show me proof and then back it with time slips. I'm talking on a Camaro now. Even with a 416. I've been working with mine for 2.5 years and with twisting the blowers nuts I can barely get 720 rwhp out of it at 17 psi.

Get a different blower if you want 775 rwhp +.

HufferSS · 05-25-2012, 04:31 PM

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Wtf. You know my car is stock!!

. Ok, can I say "like stock"?

Run some drag radials on your stock wheels and you could probably CLEAN up street racing that thing...assuming it weren't illegal and dangerous and all that stuff.

gtrpryde · 05-25-2012, 05:16 PM

If you can get your car low 9 sec capable you will match well with him. Evo's can be difficult to get into the 8's, but can run 9's very easy. He's probably boosting in the 35-40psi range.

I couldn't find any recent threads on this car. I guess he had sold it?

My dad has a Camaro and I have an Evo, so I try and frequent both forums.

You definitely have your work cut out for you, good luck!

If you do end up doing some higher speed airport runs, you should pull him up top, Evo's don't have a ton of top end, it's a fast car but is still a 4 door econobox when it comes to aerodynamics.

Supercharged SS · 05-25-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gtrpryde

If you can get your car low 9 sec capable you will match well with him. Evo's can be difficult to get into the 8's, but can run 9's very easy. He's probably boosting in the 35-40psi range.

I couldn't find any recent threads on this car. I guess he had sold it?

My dad has a Camaro and I have an Evo, so I try and frequent both forums.

You definitely have your work cut out for you, good luck!

If you do end up doing some higher speed airport runs, you should pull him up top, Evo's don't have a ton of top end, it's a fast car but is still a 4 door econobox when it comes to aerodynamics.

HA!!! Low 9 seconds. Best of luck with that. If that's the case junk your current parts and start over!!

gtrpryde · 05-25-2012, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by driyac

I just want to know how those 4 cyl hold up to that much boost???? he has to be running 25lbs+ of boost. Like how is that possible ??????

A stock engine/head can hold around 28psi on pump and around 32-33psi on meth/race gas/e85. They're just built to handle it. It's extremely different from that much boost on a v8. Little engine big boost and vice versa.

speedmon · 05-25-2012, 05:23 PM

Gettin schooled by a turbo? How do you beat him?

Get older F-Body and change induction device to TURBO.
There's a lot of 4th Gen Turbos running low 9's and 8's.....
BTW that is Farkin Fast.

They learned a while back...dump the SC go Turbo.

Its for sale.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ponti...ht_1478wt_1057

You can find em all the time at LS1Tech.

05-25-2012, 02:28 PM	#19
VADER SS L99 Drives: 2013 A6 GT 5.0 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 2,909	I would say your going to need a new power adder and a new shortblock at minimum. Even if you overcome the weight disadvantage with power its going to be hard to put it down the way a AWD car can. My vote would be a large centri blower or turbo, minimum 3600 stall, minimum forged 416"ci. RHS 427 with some all pro LS7 heads would be better though and some suspension and drivetrain that will handle minimum 1.4 60'. I think that would do it. Sounds expensive though. I wouldnt wast my money upgrading the Maggie either. By the time you add up all the upgrades to make the TVS 2300 do 900RWHP you could of bought that centri or turbo setup I was talking about. __________________ BLK/BLK 1SS/RS Ordered 11-01-2009 Took delivery 12-22-2009. Heads/cam/converter/bolt ons. SOLD Feb 2015 to fund 6th gen LT1 SS with 8L90E.

05-25-2012, 01:53 PM	#15
driyac Drives: 2012 45th Anniversary 2SS Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: West Chester Ohio Posts: 1,845	I just want to know how those 4 cyl hold up to that much boost???? he has to be running 25lbs+ of boost. Like how is that possible ??????

05-25-2012, 04:24 PM	#21
Supercharged SS Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Sandy Hook, CT Posts: 11,927	What did that Evo mph? Didn't really look that fast. I'm pretty sure your fuel system won't support a 150 shot. Ted already has doubts that mine will.

05-25-2012, 05:16 PM	#25
gtrpryde Drives: 03 Evo 8, 93 KAT S13 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 50	If you can get your car low 9 sec capable you will match well with him. Evo's can be difficult to get into the 8's, but can run 9's very easy. He's probably boosting in the 35-40psi range. I couldn't find any recent threads on this car. I guess he had sold it? My dad has a Camaro and I have an Evo, so I try and frequent both forums. You definitely have your work cut out for you, good luck! If you do end up doing some higher speed airport runs, you should pull him up top, Evo's don't have a ton of top end, it's a fast car but is still a 4 door econobox when it comes to aerodynamics.