Official 1/4 Mile (V8) 2010+ Camaro Fast List

[PQ]

Originally Posted by BrokenNut

"IF YOU CAN'T RUN WITH THE BIG DOGS STAY ON THE PORCH"

Kind of defeatist and chicken. So then don't even TRY to run with the big dogs?

NOBODY is born a big dog.

Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

They broke off the shop cars at Camaro fest and the majority, prob 99%, agreed that was the best way. Shops have a distinct advantage over customers. There's no arguing that.

If it wasn't a shop car it was represented by a shop. Even Terris car had IPS out there with her.

At least for the fest I say have a shop car category would be cool.

[GQ4Life]

Originally Posted by BrokenNut

When you run DOT drag radials you can. Keep trying its street legal even with a dealer plate.
Like I said before

"IF YOU CAN'T RUN WITH THE BIG DOGS STAY ON THE PORCH"

Wasnt talking about u..
talking about all the slicks on the street car list LoL

I dont even know who you are.. talkin about keep trying..

[BrokenNut]

Originally Posted by GQ4Life

Wasnt talking about u..
talking about all the slicks on the street car list LoL

I dont even know who you are.. talkin about keep trying..

But yet you quoted me? Oh my bad sorry...

[Supercharged SS]

Originally Posted by PQ

If it wasn't a shop car it was represented by a shop. Even Terris car had IPS out there with her.

At least for the fest I say have a shop car category would be cool.

Well, all the cars had shop support. Chris's car won, not ADM. Chris paid for it. My car finished 2nd, I payed for it, not Ted. While we all
Enjoy certain perks from working closely with a shop it's not the same as a shop owned car. If the owner of a shop wants to spend an extra 50 hours on something he can. No shop is doing that for a customer for free. Shops buy parts cheaper than we can. That's a fact.

[GQ4Life]

Originally Posted by BrokenNut

But yet you quoted me? Oh my bad sorry...

Just didnt mean ur car personally. I dont know what car is urs on the list.. Just meant with the current rules saying street registered and mentioned somewhere street legal but a bunch have slicks..
so I dont see what it matter registered or not if slicks are ok for the list. I can gut my camaro to nothing.. remove headlights turn it to a prostock and still have it street registered, DMV doesnt come out and check the car.. I wouldnt be surprised if the cars on the street registered (ones probably complaining about one not being registered) dont see the street probably more then 100miles a year anyway LoL..

I dont know where the fight started for, or what car was street registered..
if they want to do a street legal list.. make it DOT Drag Radials and car has to be driven atleast 6K miles a year.. other wise take the street registered down..
Now Shop car list would be cool to see.. but like superchargedss said what make it a shop car?
Shop pays 100%, shop gives them a discount, no charge for labor?

[GQ4Life]

Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

Well, all the cars had shop support. Chris's car won, not ADM. Chris paid for it. My car finished 2nd, I payed for it, not Ted. While we all
Enjoy certain perks from working closely with a shop it's not the same as a shop owned car. If the owner of a shop wants to spend an extra 50 hours on something he can. No shop is doing that for a customer for free. Shops buy parts cheaper than we can. That's a fact.

Good point.. their labor is their freetime not the $100 a hour.. all parts at cost not whatever mark up is..

[PQ]

Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

Well, all the cars had shop support. Chris's car won, not ADM. Chris paid for it. My car finished 2nd, I payed for it, not Ted. While we all
Enjoy certain perks from working closely with a shop it's not the same as a shop owned car. If the owner of a shop wants to spend an extra 50 hours on something he can. No shop is doing that for a customer for free. Shops buy parts cheaper than we can. That's a fact.

Fair enough.

[Supercharged SS]

Originally Posted by GQ4Life

Good point.. their labor is their freetime not the $100 a hour.. all parts at cost not whatever mark up is..

In fairness to the shops they still need to pay their employees to complete the work. I was referring to say a tuner spending hours on a $50000 dyno to dial something into. Or something to that affect. But you get the idea.


The shop car category seems like a gd idea. I don't see what the problem is.

Let the big dogs fight it out while we watch from the porch.

[BrokenNut]

Originally Posted by PQ

Kind of defeatist and chicken. So then don't even TRY to run with the big dogs?

NOBODY is born a big dog.




If it wasn't a shop car it was represented by a shop. Even Terris car had IPS out there with her.

At least for the fest I say have a shop car category would be cool.

Guess I should have used different words. The keyboard doesn't show my nicer side! No slam intended.
The competition and friendship is what its all about! BRING IT!!

Guess you have your right to your opinion, My opinion is this, The shops are there to show off what they build, design, engineer. To make a living in this industry.
But yet the majority doesn't want them on the list that they first created???
Why????
Why would this be different from an individual building the same thing? I dont see much of anything on the fast cars that someone couldn't buy and build themselves.
I would just about bet, records will be broken by an individual in 2013 in the fast list. So if that happens, would it be safe to let the shop cars back in?

[Supercharged SS]

Originally Posted by BrokenNut

Guess I should have used different words. The keyboard doesn't show my nicer side! No slam intended.
The competition and friendship is what its all about! BRING IT!!

Guess you have your right to your opinion, My opinion is this, The shops are there to show off what they build, design, engineer. To make a living in this industry.
But yet the majority doesn't want them on the list that they first created???
Why????
Why would this be different from an individual building the same thing? I dont see much of anything on the fast cars that someone couldn't buy and build themselves.
I would just about bet, records will be broken by an individual in 2013 in the fast list. So if that happens, would it be safe to let the shop cars back in?

First of all Mlee's is gonna start cracking skulls bc this discussion shouldn't be going on in the area. But I saw him drag race his ZL and he's lucky he's allowed anywhere near the drag racing section!!

BN makes a very gd point. I could very well just tell Ted to build me the fastest 5th gen around. It wouldn't be hard and he would love it. I'm happy tinkering with my slothy turd. He's actually building that car for Ray now. There isn't anything anyone of us couldn't do. Just something about the word "shop" that makes it seem taboo. Jason and Bill have cars that have as much technology has any other car. These "shop" cars aren't gutted race cars and there is no law saying if you don't have A/C or a radio you aren't street legal.

In the end it's only a list. Just don't F with the unlimited stock discplacement list and its all good!!

[JLE58]

I agree with broken nut completely. If the list means that much to ppl then they should step it up and work harder or spend more money or whatever it takes. Me personally I don't really car about the list. I've had many runs ( not so many lately) that would have made it on the list that I didnt even post up or talk about. I'll post a slip when it will put me at #1. The list is a good learning tool though to see what something can or should run. I just feel like it's gonna turn into pee wee football where everyone is a winner and we all should get a trophy.

[Lou@ARH]

Look what I've started lol... Like I stated in one of my prior quotes, A "Shop Car" is a car owned and driven by the shop. If a company wants to invest in and sponsor a customers car that can also be considered a shop car. It's something the company is using to promote themselves.

So basically ANY car that is either built and driven by a shop or sponsored by a shop is considered a "Shop Car"

For expample: Jamie's (superchargedss) car was built by Jennetty, but Jennetty does not sponsor him. That is NOT a shop car.

[JLE58]

Originally Posted by JLE58

I agree with broken nut completely. If the list means that much to ppl then they should step it up and work harder or spend more money or whatever it takes. Me personally I don't really car about the list. I've had many runs ( not so many lately) that would have made it on the list that I didnt even post up or talk about. I'll post a slip when it will put me at #1. The list is a good learning tool though to see what something can or should run. I just feel like it's gonna turn into pee wee football where everyone is a winner and we all should get a trophy.

Originally Posted by Lou@ARH

Look what I've started lol... Like I stated in one of my prior quotes, A "Shop Car" is a car owned and driven by the shop. If a company wants to invest in and sponsor a customers car that can also be considered a shop car. It's something the company is using to promote themselves.

So basically ANY car that is either built by a shop or sponsored by a shop is considered a "Shop Car"

For expample: Jamie's (superchargedss) car was built by Jennetty, but Jennetty does not sponsor him. That is NOT a shop car.

Ted would like to have a shop car but he's is always having to work on Jamie's "street" car poor guy.

[Lou@ARH]

Originally Posted by JLE58

Ted would like to have a shop car but he's is always having to work on Jamie's "street" car poor guy.

Haha