04-24-2013, 01:55 PM | #169 |
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Yes, it is a benefit to do once after a good can is installed as it will loosen and clear some of the coking deposits.....this is just a cautionary post to NOT due to many of the upper induction cleanings as the pictures show. and I ask all to read the thread "is a catchcan needed?" on page 5 so they can see all the pictures. There are only a couple worthwhile...no matter the name brand, no matter who endorses it, or what they claim....all the facts and pictures show you the 2-3 worth using.
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04-24-2013, 01:56 PM | #170 |
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No, the issue is not changing your oil immediately after having the cleaning done. Just change your oil after you do the cleaning and you should be okay
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04-25-2013, 09:13 AM | #171 |
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Just heard back from the Dealership...
The mechanic said it's a Spun Rod Bearing and he stated this was related to the Oil filter used by Valvoline. They are seeing a lot of issues with aftermarket oil filters, the mechanic said to stick with AC Delco oil filters. "GM will repair this out of good will gesture, but next time you are on your own" This is fine. I get it. My concern is any other reciprocal damage lingering in the shadows. I'm very hard on this car, and drive it like its a V8. Like another member stated, I drive it like I stole it...constantly...everywhere. |
04-25-2013, 09:41 AM | #172 |
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I would be on the phone to valvoline ASAP. If this is true there are a lot more people out there getting ripped off.
I tend not to believe this since I would hope their standards for the oil filter was check. Sound fishy.
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04-25-2013, 01:46 PM | #173 |
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Contacted Valvoline. They use Purolator filters and only Purolator. The Manager remembered me as I have a Rx catch can they also drain for me. Dealership says its the oil filter, Valvoline says their filters aren't bad quality.
So I asked, "what's the best filters you can buy?" 1. Wix 2. Purolator 3. K&N/Bosch 4. AC Delco which is made by Chanti or something didn't catch that part. The Dealership is honoring the warranty out of "good will." Should this happen again then I'm responsible for parts/labor. The technician assigned to this case is beast when it comes to engines so I'm not concerned. However, they will not offer a Courtesy Car since this is "good will". This stinks of bs, I agree. I have an engine that has had a major malfucntion with less than 15k miles left of warranty. Since the original purchase my income and career has seen major changes. I take this as a sign its time to upgrade to what I should have gotten all along... Summit White 2SS w/Sunroof and black rims. |
04-25-2013, 01:49 PM | #174 |
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I'm sorry but your dealership is full of it. Good Will? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. There's no way this was on the valvoline filters.
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04-25-2013, 02:41 PM | #175 |
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Don't bearing typically spin due to low oil? Not sure I buy the filter idea...
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04-25-2013, 03:47 PM | #176 |
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I don't understand the filter thing as well.
Did they give you a specific reason? Such as the filter doesn't flow good enough...or perhaps it doesn' filter well enough. I've always used full synthetic, and AC delco. But my dumb @ss has never saved any recipts of my purchases.
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04-25-2013, 03:54 PM | #177 |
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I had the spun bearing issue when my engine failed as well, not sure if I ever posted this in this Biblical thread
But I would not buy the filter excuse one bit from that dealer. Talk to customer service, and make sure you escalate this issue to a supervisor to point out the problems with that argument. Get documentation from Valvoline stating the filters are made from Purolators, and that can't possibly the issue. Did the dealer tell you how much oil was missing in the engine once they cracked it open?
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04-25-2013, 03:55 PM | #178 | |
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Only reason I buy Wix is because, I have always bought Wix on all my cars.
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04-25-2013, 04:22 PM | #179 |
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GM Customer Service contacted me. Basically since it's "goodwill" I don't qualify for a courtesy car. Goodwill meaning, GM doesn't have to warranty the repairs they are doing this to be nice. This could have ended up costing me a LOT more in parts/labor but the Service Manager went to bat for me as I know him personally.
Bottom line. The car had major engine problems, they will warranty the repair for what they call 12/12 or 12 months or 12,000 miles. I look at it like this is just the first of many many issues to come for a car that was produced in 2009 very early in the manufacturing process. This or something worse will happen again. Make sure you use AC Delco oil filters or better. You've been warned. |
04-25-2013, 04:26 PM | #180 |
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No mention of that. The only thing mentioned was "a lot of metal fragments in the oil pan." Either way the he car is getting sold or traded in. I'm not a mechanic, but I understand the basics. Time to move on to something newer or else I'll be having this same conversation in 1 year again only it will be a new issue and perhaps worse.
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