New CAFE Standards: 42 MPG Cars, 26 MPG Trucks by 2016

[01pewterz28]

42MPG for ALL new cars and Trucks by 2016 :(

[THE EVIL TW1N]

Originally Posted by 01pewterz28

42MPG for ALL new cars and Trucks by 2016 :(

This will be interesting

[Vash]

Well the Vette and the Charger / Challenger lines are shut. The gun is not pointed at the SS's engine.

I actually would like to see a 4 cyl 2011+ Camaro LC (low cost lol). (Hides behind chicken wire from beer bottles and tomatoes...)

If I got speeding tickets in my stock 140 hp 305 2bbl a 180+ HP 4 banger could push the car along just fine. (hides behind chicken wire again)...

[galron70-SS/RS]

Last of the V8's may not be a joke one day.

[War Eagle]

I saw somewhere a while back that there had been a pretty substantial reduction in gasoline consumption and number of cars on the roads in California. It seems that fewer and fewer people there still have a job. If California continues to be the "prototype" and example for the rest of the country we could be headed for............................................... ....

[live2well]

Well we will always have the Juice......I know poor attempt at a joke.


( I thought I had a V8) :-)

[BigRigMike]

Originally Posted by 01pewterz28

42MPG for ALL new cars and Trucks by 2016 :(

The rumor is 42 for cars and 26 for trucks. Nothing is confirmed

I assume that this could be merged with:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23295

[linkwpc]

That's why I'm buy my V8 SS right now!

[Rocks RS]

SO, is that number an average for the fleet or is it all cars have to hit that number?

[BigRigMike]

Originally Posted by Rockdawg

SO, is that number an average for the fleet or is it all cars have to hit that number?

Average

[Mindz]

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23295

[GTAHVIT]

Please keep the political stuff out of this conversation.

Thanks,

[theholycow]

Those numbers don't need to be so scary. CAFE ratings are not the same as the EPA fuel economy ratings on the window sticker. CAFE ratings are significantly higher, so a car EPA rated 31mpg highway might be CAFE rated 44mpg. Then there's 'trucks', which includes 35mpg compact station wagons with flat floors...

As I posted in another thread recently, CAFE is to blame for the proliferance of SUVs and trucks being driven by people who would be better served by more efficient cars.

According to http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/CARS/rules/CAFE/overview.htm the current CAFE standard is the same as it was in 1985. I don't suppose it's entirely unreasonable to jack it up a bit after 31 years. While it did send people seeking refuge in SUVs and trucks so they could drive something reasonable, it did encourage technological development that produced lots of power, speed, and reliability to accompany the increased economy.

True, you can't get the cheap basic 40-50mpg cars you could in the late 1980s/early 1990s, but now you can get full size cars that beat 30mpg (Impala, anyone?) so they don't need to foist those tiny underpowered cars on people to meet CAFE standards anymore. Cars are heavier than ever and less aerodynamic than in the 1990s but for an equivalent sized car you get better MPG and greatly improved safety, power, ride, handling.

GM, Ford, and Asian companies tend to meet CAFE requirements, while European makes have had to pay some fines for not meeting CAFE.

All in all, the growing pains are scary and I'd hate to think I'll have trouble finding a nice heavy vehicle with a decent ride, but CAFE has played an important role in delivering the Camaro we have today and any number of other great cars and technologies.

[camaro5]

This is actually a huge relief for car makers, as they were threatened with many different standards, that they could never meet.

At least the standard is consolodated.

the auto industry isn't expected to challenge the new rules as they finally set both a definitive time table and a national standard.