Ed Peper confirms New Camaro engine to have 400+ HP V8 w. AFM and 300+ HP V6

[Grape Ape]

Originally Posted by CamaroSpike23

detuned LS3 for the v-8.

that is all.

The LS3 is 6.2 not 6.0 and does not have AFM.

Originally Posted by smokn'

i was referring to the quoted "2 v6's and 1 v8"

I am pretty sure that was before Scott told us to "forget everything you've heard about engines".

Originally Posted by DGthe3

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Oh sweet mother of God. 400 hp V8, priced similar to the mustang GT but able to open up a can 'o whoopass on the SRT8's. I believe that is GM's way of saying they are sorry for the wait for the 5th Gen. To all those who can't figure out what this engine is, its a new engine (at least to us, possibly to everyone). There are no 6.0L engines from GM in North America that make 400+ hp. Calling it an L76 is as justified as calling it an LS2. THIS is why we were told to forget everything we've heard about engines.

Don't forget that Mopar's 5.7 Hemi (for the LX body R/Ts) is getting bumped up to ~390hp and that Ford is rumored to be rolling out a new V8 for the GT mid model year 09. I think that the Camaro will have the best power to weight ratio, but the HP War is definitely on.

Originally Posted by blindingillusion

Doesn't 6.0 pretty much confirm the engine will be a L76, because isn't the LS2 going out of production. I wonder what they are going to do to push a 361hp engine >400hp

From what I’ve read the only thing holding the L76 back is the fact that the collapsible lifters cannot collapse as far as a stock LS2 cam lifts. So the four deact cylinders have smaller cam lobes. If GM found better deact lifters or found a way to use higher ratio rockers then the revised L76 should make more power than an LS2 (400hp) since it has better heads (and the intake to?).

I suggest we call this mystery motor the L76.5 until we learn more.

[balonywolf]

Yeah, the LS3 is out. The only thing I can think of is a Gen V, as others seem to agree.

[Dan]

That statement doesn't make much sense. Why bump the L76 to 400+ when you already have the LS3? Unless you just really want the AFM in the base v8. Also they have already said that the 3.6 v6 will be the same one in the upcoming Traverse, but that engine doesn't make 300+, it makes 283hp.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Just so everyones "clear" it's not terribly difficult for GM to put AFM on an engine. So, just because it's got AFM, doesn't rule anything out.

[Fandango]

So does that mean that the V6 will not be produced as much as the V8? I don't think I get it. Some one help me out.

I just want to make sure I get a SS with 400+ horses.

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

6.0 Liter LS3?


Anyways, no matter what engine gets used...Don't underestimate it due to displaacement, or whatnot. Wait for the numbers before you judge to harshly. I remember people doing that about the L76 at first in the G8. Some laughed.

Look what it did to the Charger. GM is on this.

Mark my words, no matter what engine gets popped in, We WON'T be disapointed. It'll have AFM, and 400 horses (at the very least in the way of features). Anybody really wanna complain about that?

+1

Not complaining just real curious.

EDIT: Everytime we get new information it creates more questions then it answers... I feel like I'm watching an episode of Lost..... What the???

Originally Posted by Grape Ape

The LS3 is 6.2 not 6.0 and does not have AFM.



I am pretty sure that was before Scott told us to "forget everything you've heard about engines".


Don't forget that Mopar's 5.7 Hemi (for the LX body R/Ts) is getting bumped up to ~390hp and that Ford is rumored to be rolling out a new V8 for the GT mid model year 09. I think that the Camaro will have the best power to weight ratio, but the HP War is definitely on.




From what I’ve read the only thing holding the L76 back is the fact that the collapsible lifters cannot collapse as far as a stock LS2 cam lifts. So the four deact cylinders have smaller cam lobes. If GM found better deact lifters or found a way to use higher ratio rockers then the revised L76 should make more power than an LS2 (400hp) since it has better heads (and the intake to?).

I suggest we call this mystery motor the L76.5 until we learn more.

GREAT POST!

[CamaroSpike23]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

6.0 Liter LS3?


Anyways, no matter what engine gets used...Don't underestimate it due to displaacement, or whatnot. Wait for the numbers before you judge to harshly. I remember people doing that about the L76 at first in the G8. Some laughed.

Look what it did to the Charger. GM is on this.

Mark my words, no matter what engine gets popped in, We WON'T be disapointed. It'll have AFM, and 400 horses (at the very least in the way of features). Anybody really wanna complain about that?

vette ls3- 430 hp ...
camaro ls3- 400hp lol

Originally Posted by DGthe3

LS3 doesn't have AFM and isn't 6.0L. So unless the information posted is total garbage, then it can't be a variant of the LS3. AFM can be added to an engine with a little bit of work, but the displacement issue doesn't have such an easy work around.

well, he did make a mistake on a 3.9 v-6

Just spoke to Jim. And then we had to call GM. Peper misspoke. He said 3.9 but it is the same 3.6 liter as in the Traverse. Sorry for the confusion.

so whos to say he forgot a .2 on the engine size?

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Just so everyones "clear" it's not terribly difficult for GM to put AFM on an engine. So, just because it's got AFM, doesn't rule anything out.

danke

[Sterling]

I think he mis-spoke like he did about the V6 displacement. I think it is the LS3 with AFM added to it. Even if it's not, I am relieved to hear that it will have 400+ hp. That's what I really wanted.

[Justcallme61]

Originally Posted by 3whiterag

Hmmmmmmmm.

For some reason I think this hmmm means that this engine info is inaccurate...but why would he give inaccurate info? He MUST know what's going into it. Why do you guys do these little "hint" things to us :( lol

[GothamCamaro]

Originally Posted by smokn'

fastball, i can promise you i won't be paying above sticker. i think it's funny how they are banking on all of us buying immediately, when on a recent thread so many said they are waiting to see if something better comes!!!lol stick it to the price jackers, God bless the honest salesman...if one exist...lol j/k

I won't be paying more than $100 over sticker either! So finding a good dealer along with wanting to save a little more will cause me the delay of a couple of months once the Camaro comes out.

If they are thinking we're gonna bend over for them with price jacks, they better think again. I'm looking for that one nice dealer in the IL and I'll find him.

[smike07]

Originally Posted by Grape Ape

Don't forget that Mopar's 5.7 Hemi (for the LX body R/Ts) is getting bumped up to ~390hp and that Ford is rumored to be rolling out a new V8 for the GT mid model year 09. I think that the Camaro will have the best power to weight ratio, but the HP War is definitely on.

The latest I've heard, the Mustang will only be gaing an extra 50 horses for the GT model. It'll take a Roush at the very least to compete with the Camaro. Even then, it'll likely have trouble keeping up. It's hard to see with smoke and dust in your eyes, you know.

[2010_5thgen]

NO 6.2?????? WTF!

please tell me he isnt a reliable source or that he is just BS' us?

[DGthe3]

You are waaaay to caught up in displacement. The G8 with the 361 hp 6.0L L76 nips at the heels of the the 6.1L 425 hp Charger, let alone the R/T that its supposed to compete with. The Camaro will be lighter and sounds like it will be more powerful than the G8 GT. But, if you really need your base Camaro to have 6.2L of displacement rather than 6.0, get a stroker kit and do it yourself.

However, I'm sure that there will be some 6.2L engine for a GT500 fighting Camaro. But that car is not expected at release.

[Namrepus28]

Originally Posted by Dan

That statement doesn't make much sense. Why bump the L76 to 400+ when you already have the LS3? Unless you just really want the AFM in the base v8. Also they have already said that the 3.6 v6 will be the same one in the upcoming Traverse, but that engine doesn't make 300+, it makes 283hp.

Having the AFM option is a big deal these days. Especially with the impending doom and all. By which I mean the new MPG regulations on the horizon. It would be an excellent reason to bump the L76...but then again a next gen engine might just be a possibility...and what better way to introduce it?

Is the V6 engine in the Traverse Direct Injection? This one will surely be. I believe it will be very similar to the Cadillac V6 with DI.

And just to add this in for any V6 fans out there...

300+ STOCK V6 in a CAMARO! Whoooooooooooooooooot!!!!