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Old 04-02-2008, 01:10 PM   #15
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They shouldn't have striked, but GM should not be dependent on one company. Competition for GM business would drive down prices and drive up GM profits. It's basic economics. I think it is ironic that the company that first devised a system of selling the same platform to diverse consumers through various companies (rebadging and all that) is the same company that only uses only one source for all of its parts. Wouldn't it make more sense to buy parts the same way that has been proven to sell parts successfully?
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Old 04-02-2008, 02:10 PM   #16
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Wouldn't it make more sense to buy parts the same way that has been proven to sell parts successfully?
American Axle used to be part of GM. It's a spinoff of GM, so far as I understand. So it makes sense that most of their parts are made by American Axle...but why they didn't slowly split contracts around....
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Old 04-02-2008, 02:32 PM   #17
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I'm all for "Made in America" but I don't have too much sympathy when we shoot ourselves in the foot. No; none of these people asked for this but it's no wonder companies don't want to do business here. I no nothing about business and politics and that's because when I try to engage in some learning, I get frustrated in all the BS. Regardless, GM would do better to have more than one supplier, like has been mentioned already. Competition never hurt anyone.
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Old 04-02-2008, 03:59 PM   #18
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Don't you just love NAFTA? It helps the economy by making it cheaper to import goods. The fact that people lose their jobs in the process is irrelevent.
Yes and you can thanks unions for its existence.
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Old 04-02-2008, 04:20 PM   #19
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It would certainly be devastating for anyone to have to take a 50% pay cut. That being said, a job is only worth at most 20-30% more than what it would cost to replace you with a rookie. Unions have been successul and raising wages and expectations of its members to a point now where it is just not feasible for companies to do business here. This is an unfortunate situation for the company, its workers, and this great nation. There is a proposal out there that could make the US one of the most attractive places to do business in and its called the Fairtax. www.fairtax.org
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Old 04-02-2008, 04:24 PM   #20
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It would certainly be devastating for anyone to have to take a 50% pay cut. That being said, a job is only worth at most 20-30% more than what it would cost to replace you with a rookie. Unions have been successul and raising wages and expectations of its members to a point now where it is just not feasible for companies to do business here. This is an unfortunate situation for the company, its workers, and this great nation. There is a proposal out there that could make the US one of the most attractive places to do business in and its called the Fairtax. www.fairtax.org
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Old 04-02-2008, 04:44 PM   #21
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You've got to feel for the workers on strike, though. How many people would not be wrought with financial problems if their job suddenly cut their income in half? There goes your house, etc., because you can't make the mortgage payment anymore. It's not their fault they get paid so much more than the competitor's company. The company agreed to it.
Nope sorry don't feel for anyone in that situation.. they acknowledged that they could go on strike any time that the union feels like it when they signed their contract. The reward for that risk was that they get overpaid to do a job that should pay less. This is the reason I will NEVER work for a union, what idiot gives anyone the right to say they can or can't work?

Life lesson to be learned here. When you sign up for something that is too good to be true.. It usually is. When that gravy train crashes and burns at the end of the ride, don't complain that was part of the risk.

Besides who has a right to complain about getting paid $50/hr when the industry average is $15/hr.. Even at 50% your still $10/hr ahead of the industry.
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This is why our stock axles suck.
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I bet the company wouldn't be in as much financial trouble if the Unions hadn't sucked them dry for so long.

Thanks to OSHA and other workplace regulations the days of Unions are over. Unless union workers realize this soon the only places they'll be finding automotive jobs will require them to learn Spanish.
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Old 10-27-2010, 08:33 AM   #27
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Without getting into all the stuff about Unions and such. My only comment is it's sad they can produce them in Mexico and ship them to Canada, 3000 miles away cheaper than they can make them 130 miles away. Cheap mexican labor. I guess.
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Old 10-27-2010, 08:33 AM   #28
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Many domestic automotive parts are produced in Mexico, then shipped to Canada for assembly. There are hardly any jobs left in america.

Allthough, yesterday I picked up 20,000 lbs of ford car computers in El Paso.. and flew them to Kansas city. That felt good.
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