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SSLarry · 03-10-2011, 07:40 AM

I got my Consumer Reports magazine this week and was pleasantly surprised. They compiled enough survey data to rate the 2010 Camaro. Whatever you think of CR' subjective reviews, their reliability data is based on fact (owners submitting surveys). It was a good first year with no stand out reliability issues ! BRAVO CHEVY

They actually did recommend the Camaro, but hate the outward visibility, etc. It was recommended because of performance and this:

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I'd love my Camaro even if the results were more like the Challenger's, but its nice to know the resale value will be helped by this. We'll see how the numbers hold up as the car ages.

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motorhead · 03-10-2011, 07:45 AM

They must not have included mine.

cab2g · 03-10-2011, 08:15 AM

I'm just wondering who are these manufacturers that are still making below "average" cars these days. You'd think everybody would've learned a bit about how the perception of quality affects sales in a major way.

TooCool5 · 03-10-2011, 08:21 AM

Bravo for Gm.

That is Japanese level quality and my LS has been the best car I have ever owned.

stray bullitt · 03-10-2011, 08:24 AM

That's good to see. I have no GM dealer backup over here.

kr juice 1 · 03-10-2011, 09:14 AM

i'm really enjoying mine just want to start adding some toys to it...patiently waiting

PercyJWellingtonIII · 03-10-2011, 08:44 PM

Hmmm...this report looks really good, but having said that I still think Consumer reports sucks.

PercyJWellingtonIII · 03-10-2011, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cab2g

I'm just wondering who are these manufacturers that are still making below "average" cars these days. You'd think everybody would've learned a bit about how the perception of quality affects sales in a major way.

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Yeh you would think so but Toyota has recalled almost 16mill cars over the last 15 months,

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alfie43 · 03-10-2011, 10:24 PM

Thanks to the OP for that interesting post.

I usually have problems with CU when they talk autos and these reliability charts are a perfect illustration why.

Note that the V-8 is rated the highest score, a full circle, in 16 of the 17 categories and yet the total score for new car prediction is only a half circle.....huh?

Then they summarize the predicted reliability as a used car as a half circle; "better than average"....16 of 17 is only better than average?

Maybe GM should change the name of the car to Camarota or Camaronda?

Cripes! CU should just stick to washing machines.

Alfie

1BADLS3 · 03-10-2011, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by alfie43

Thanks to the OP for that interesting post.

I usually have problems with CU when they talk autos and these reliability charts are a perfect illustration why.

Note that the V-8 is rated the highest score, a full circle, in 16 of the 17 categories and yet the total score for new car prediction is only a half circle.....huh?

Then they summarize the predicted reliability as a used car as a half circle; "better than average"....16 of 17 is only better than average?

Maybe GM should change the name of the car to Camarota or Camaronda?

Cripes! CU should just stick to washing machines.

Alfie

I have the same issues with CR.

It's really interesting to see their ratings on the Camaro. They're glowing over the car. How did they rate the same powertrains in other applications?

Their rating seems to usually follow this rank:

Toyota
Honda
Above Average
Average
Below average
Chevrolet

SSLarry · 03-10-2011, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfie43

Thanks to the OP for that interesting post.

I usually have problems with CU when they talk autos and these reliability charts are a perfect illustration why.

Note that the V-8 is rated the highest score, a full circle, in 16 of the 17 categories and yet the total score for new car prediction is only a half circle.....huh?

Then they summarize the predicted reliability as a used car as a half circle; "better than average"....16 of 17 is only better than average?

Maybe GM should change the name of the car to Camarota or Camaronda?

Cripes! CU should just stick to washing machines.

Alfie

I think you missed it. Its 'predicted reliability'. It's not just based on one year. Note the crappy gen 4 reliability on the V8 chart. GM (and Ford and esp Chrysler) have been making crappy cars (reliability-wise) for so long that their reputation preceded them. It will take a few more successful launches to change that perception. Malibu, Camaro, Equinox and Cruz should really wake people up as to what GM is able to pull off. They've just about caught up to the Japanese, and have surpassed German reliability.

DarkneSS · 03-10-2011, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by motorhead

They must not have included mine.

ibeck · 03-10-2011, 11:46 PM

Glad to see it no problems on my 2LT for 11,000 miles now

I usually tend to stay away from CR as well though...

patrickt · 03-11-2011, 12:00 AM

CR has always been bias towards imports IMO I remember them comming out on the early 2000's Hondas saying how great they were when we were watching them come in one after another on the hook across the street with blown trans'. So if they are rating the Camaro that high must mean its a hell of alot better

03-10-2011, 07:40 AM	#1
SSLarry Drives: 2SS LS3 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 1,309	1st year reliability is Excellent! I got my Consumer Reports magazine this week and was pleasantly surprised. They compiled enough survey data to rate the 2010 Camaro. Whatever you think of CR' subjective reviews, their reliability data is based on fact (owners submitting surveys). It was a good first year with no stand out reliability issues ! BRAVO CHEVY They actually did recommend the Camaro, but hate the outward visibility, etc. It was recommended because of performance and this: I'd love my Camaro even if the results were more like the Challenger's, but its nice to know the resale value will be helped by this. We'll see how the numbers hold up as the car ages. . __________________ 2010 CGM 2SS LS3, born: 4/10

03-10-2011, 08:15 AM	#3
cab2g love. my. car. Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,372 View My Garage	I'm just wondering who are these manufacturers that are still making below "average" cars these days. You'd think everybody would've learned a bit about how the perception of quality affects sales in a major way. __________________

03-10-2011, 08:21 AM	#4
TooCool5 Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LS 3.6 LLT V6 325 HP Join Date: May 2009 Location: LS Posts: 4,242 View My Garage	Bravo for Gm. That is Japanese level quality and my LS has been the best car I have ever owned. __________________ 2010 Camaro Auto, Inferno Orange, Titanium Interior, Gearhead Wheels AIRAID CAI

03-10-2011, 10:24 PM	#9
alfie43 Drives: S/C 2SS/RS Camaro-6M-VicRed Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Alfie (Mariano) lives in Shelby Twp, Metro-Detroit Posts: 1,119 View My Garage	Thanks to the OP for that interesting post. I usually have problems with CU when they talk autos and these reliability charts are a perfect illustration why. Note that the V-8 is rated the highest score, a full circle, in 16 of the 17 categories and yet the total score for new car prediction is only a half circle.....huh? Then they summarize the predicted reliability as a used car as a half circle; "better than average"....16 of 17 is only better than average? Maybe GM should change the name of the car to Camarota or Camaronda? Cripes! CU should just stick to washing machines. Alfie __________________ Last edited by alfie43; 03-10-2011 at 10:49 PM.

03-10-2011, 11:46 PM	#13
ibeck OT's Most Wanted Drives: 2011 2LT RS, 2011 Legacy 2.5i Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: West Chester, OH Posts: 12,487 View My Garage	Glad to see it no problems on my 2LT for 11,000 miles now I usually tend to stay away from CR as well though... __________________ 2011 SIM 2LT RS- Volant Powercore CAI, Poweraid Throttle Body Spacer, CNT Catback Exhaust, Passport Escort 9500i 2011 Legacy 2.5i- Floor mats. Oh and LED license plate bulbs. Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/ibeck1013 Twitter: https://twitter.com/turkishbaus

03-10-2011, 07:45 AM	#2
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,850	They must not have included mine.

03-10-2011, 08:24 AM	#5
stray bullitt Drives: Bentley Continental GT. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Boston, Lincolnshire, England Posts: 1,022	That's good to see. I have no GM dealer backup over here.

03-10-2011, 09:14 AM	#6
kr juice 1 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss/rs Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Mission, TX Posts: 427 View My Garage	i'm really enjoying mine just want to start adding some toys to it...patiently waiting

03-10-2011, 08:44 PM	#7
PercyJWellingtonIII Account Suspended Drives: pontiac Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Md Posts: 1,512 View My Garage	Hmmm...this report looks really good, but having said that I still think Consumer reports sucks.

03-11-2011, 12:00 AM	#14
patrickt Drives: still saving! Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 6,227	CR has always been bias towards imports IMO I remember them comming out on the early 2000's Hondas saying how great they were when we were watching them come in one after another on the hook across the street with blown trans'. So if they are rating the Camaro that high must mean its a hell of alot better

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