Whats up with GM?

[BATMAN!]

Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

You're making it very clear that a person can never debate Ford vs Chevy in an intelligent, factual manner with Ford guys. The engines in basic design were in fact the same, but with different and real HP ratings...so, you're right...have a great Ford day.

Go over to lstech and see what they say.

[BATMAN!]

Originally Posted by Bad@ssCamaro

I don't list a Camaro, and I don't get crap about it. Someday you'll get it

If you dont drink the kool aid here it dont matter what car you claim to own your just considered a Ford lover.

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by Bobaloo

I had an '85 with 305HO and all the good looking trimmings. I just sold my '96 Classic fully loaded with an LT1 and 189 miles for my now 2012 Camaro SS. My 2012 is the first to have a 5 star safety rating and infact it beats up on the "other two" for stoping from 60-0 in 111 feet.....I like that. I like the style, comfort and weight on the highway believe it or not. I'll take steel over plastic every day of the week and yet my SS giddy-ups like a young quarter horse anytime I feel the need. 1600 miles now and I'm lovin it! See the USA in your Chevrolet. Just my individual feelings.

Originally Posted by Bobaloo

Oh boy I should have stated 189,000 miles on my Caprice Classic with the LT1. Sorry.

LOL, I don't think mileage is a requirement. Welcome to Camaro5, where things always gets interesting. I want to commend you on your loyalty to GM and its products. I'm sure it stems from a long history in your family. Glad your enjoying your SS, may it bring you many miles of smiles.

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by BATMAN!

If you dont drink the kool aid here it dont matter what car you claim to own your just considered a Ford lover.

But that's par for the course considering what the name of this website is.

[Fenderaddict2]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

Again, I loved the 4th gen Camaro/Firebird... I still when I see WS6 going down the road or a SS. When people stopped caring about performance is when we got the IRON DUKE in the Camaro.



Boy thats ugly NOT

No. That IS ugly, yes. The early not over done flared nostril version of this was dead sexy looking though.

[tooslow]

Originally Posted by Bad@ssCamaro

It's too bad you don't heed your own advice.

What advice did I offer?

[Bad@ssCamaro]

Originally Posted by tooslow

What advice did I offer?

Why don't you go back and reread what you're last post was to me and then let me know what I'm trying to say.

[tooslow]

The last post by me, directed to you (other than #204) was the one where I stated

I enjoy the site, the content, the ability to have an intelligent conversation/debate with most of the members and gain knowledge from people who are smarter than I am regarding certain subjects.

I didn't offer any advice, I simply stated the reasons why I continue to visit the site.

[samhardy2008]

Originally Posted by xx_ED_xx

They dont make the GT anymore, hence the reason it wasnt mentioned.

Honestly i dont understand why GM has more then one sports car, and now there is talk about a full size v8 sedan..

I personally dont buy a car for stock numbers... I prefer GM for my performance goals. IF i wasnt a hot rodder I would probably drive a toyota or honda. Reliable good vehicles unlike most of the GM junk lately but I am sure someone will disagree.

i obviously didnt know it wasnt made anymore hence the reason i mentioned it

[samhardy2008]

Originally Posted by Paco

Exactly my thoughts


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times two on that one!

[90503]

Originally Posted by tooslow

The last post by me, directed to you (other than #204) was the one where I stated



I didn't offer any advice, I simply stated the reasons why I continue to visit the site.

Lol...I thought this was the correct place where the opinions and views of non Camaro owners would be welcomed, as part of "General and Other" discussions....????

[VADER SS L99]

Originally Posted by ParisTNDude

You might want to stick with Ford facts...you're not doing well with Chevys. The 4th Gen Camaro Z28 was introduced with the LT1 SB at 275 HP, then 285 and later some were modified by SLP in 1997 with 330 HP with the old SB chevy engine. In 1998 Chevy introduced the LS1 engine in the Camaro at 305 HP. In 2001 the Z28 Camaro got 310 and the SS got 325 HP. In 2001 SLP (aftermarket) offered SLP Camaros through dealerships with 345 HP with a few bolt ons. The 1993 Base Corvette had 300 HP and the 1997 Corvette was introduced with 345 HP and increased that to 350 in 2001. Corvette introduced the Z06 LS6 engine with 385 in 2001 and that was increased to 405 in 2002. There was never a time when the 4th gen Camaro matched any Corvette in HP from the factory. If I have my facts wrong, please point me to the correct information from a reliable source.

"The most powerfull engine there is. It is extremely underrated, and can produce massive amounts of power. People think the Earth spins because of gravitational forces ... completely wrong ... there is an LS1 in the core of the planet that is causing the spin ... a few have been put in space to move the planets around the sun too" LOL
On a serious note the LS1 that came in the 4th gen F body is one of the most underrated engines of all time. Its got to be up there with the Grand National and 03-04 Cobra. There were quite a few bone stock (down to the filter and 245" tires) 98-02 Z28's that ran high 12's. Thats a 305 HP car that weighs 3400+ lbs. Yeah right 305 HP. More like 305RWHP. I would say the SLP 345hp package SS's definitly had more HP than the same year Vette. The LS1 in a Vette was exactly the same as the Camaro. I do believe the Vette motor was making slightly more HP than the base Z28 though due to its better exhaust and induction. Other than that they were exactly the same year for year.

[ParisTNDude]

Originally Posted by MauriSSio

different RATINGS. Thats not the same as different power outputs. Of course im right. Everything i posted was factual. This has nothing to do with ford vs chevy at all (where the heck did that even come from?!?) and only with the misinformation that some people believe that the corvette got a totally different LS1 than in the Camaro, which is not true. Even the dyno numbers showed that they produced roughly the same power.

Brilliant display of backtracking your previous rediculously false comment...you even told a fib about your fib. Your comment was not factual! Have you ever considered becoming a politician? I never said the Corvette and Camaro got a "totally different LS1" I simply stated that one poster acknowledged the fact that Chevrolet's policy was that the sibling Camaro was not allowed to have an engine rated at higher HP than the Corvette, which I proved with factual information, something you are apparently incapable of doing. I would love to see your dyno sheets to back up your other dubious comment.

[SlingShot]

Gee and I always thought that GM's most powerful production engine was the LNF, rated at 130Hp per liter.