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Seriously that's for the Z/26 not the.............. Z/28.
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It is so cool that you folks from Chevrolet are reading these posts! I can give you my opinion on what I would like in the next Z28.
I do not really care what the engine is. (Although 427 is a magic number for me. How about 427 RWHP?) I want a Z28 or whatever @ 3400 pounds with about 500 crank HP and handling on par with a ZL1. Simple formula. Turbos are fine if needed and I know this is blasphemy, but it does not have to be a V8. And yea, give me something like MRC too. I don't mind a comfy ride when I'm not feeing sporty. Recaros too please. This would be a car in a modern variation of the Z28 spirit. A Z28 like this will also better attract the younger crowd who do not like big cars with a gas guzzler tax. To maintain popularity you have to think about the future. Such a car may exist in the next few years. The next Camaro, Mustang, or Barracuda might be such a car that could challenge the current ZL1 and '13+ GT500 with less weight and more technology. Or maybe all of them will wind up too chubby. Heres to hoping. But I do not agree that an LS7 in the current Camaro platform would be any faster than the ZL1 and even with the weight loss I do not see how it will out handle it. And an LS7 Camaro would not out compete the GT500 either. All that being said, I hope you guys get your LS7 Camaro if that is your Camaro dream car. And for Chevy's sake I hope you all buy one if they build it. GM tells us the 1LE will run with the Boss even with an LS3. After seeing the ZL1 compete with the '13 GT500 I can believe it. I was thinking of buying a 1LE but my car right now should perform pretty close to a 1LE and with my bolt-ons may even be a bit faster. If I could only drive my car that fast! I need to spend more time at the track. Now I am thinking I will wait and see what the new generation of pony car muscle brings. One of those will be my next car. I hope its the Chevy.
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Yes, GM is reading and absorbing/digesting what potential buyers desire in the next Z/28 and entire Camaro family for that matter.
I do not share the enthusiasm as many on here that the next Z/28 should be built with the LS7. But I do understand their enthusiasm. Please keep the LS7 out and away from the Z/28 though. Personally, I am ready to see some changes to the Camaro. Body style is good, but I would like to see it get slimmed down. Just needs to be a little leaner and meaner.....Just a little. The dash, however, does not reflect the sporty race stature that I desire. Yes the dash is in line with the retro styling, but it is dated. The square box looking frames around the tach and speedo have a nice radius in the corners but they are still boxy squares to these old eyes. The dash needs to go and I mean GONE!!!! I'm waiting patiently GM. IMPRESS ME!!! BTW, I'm also the one who is requesting the "Million Dollar Red" color. NO TINCOAT!!!!!! NO Metallic!!!!!! Just a nice deep sexy red with all black interior. I've got the money and the time. The balls in your court GM. |
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No one expects an LS7 in the Gen-6 Camaro, but it would make a terrific departure in a Final Edition Gen-FIVE ZEE (just like the 60th LS7 Vette Convertible).
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First I'll start by saying the more the merrier, HOWEVER they really need to educate themselves first. There is a lot of well thought out scenarios in this section of the forum if they'd only take the time.
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So many people with a low post count? LOL You are not exclusive to the Z/28 threads my friend nor your opinions or desires for the Z/28. Your post suggests that I am not worthy of being an enthusiast. I owned a 68' RS with a 327. I had many good times in that car. Was sorry that I ever let it go. Those memories still run through by blood. Do not feel threatened Clyde. I am not telling you what should be or shouldn't be. I did state that I do not share YOUR enthusiasm. But my desire and enthusiasm is no less than yours my friend. After all, I am just one person with a low post count. Thanks for the chuckle, but I will post whatever I feel is with in my red blooded soul, low post count and all. Last edited by R1jamn; 07-07-2012 at 05:06 PM. |
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I have read your well thought out scenarios and I applaud you and those for the conviction to bring these many points to light. I do like a lot of the plans that many of you have engineered for the Z. Believe me, I am well educated. But I am not jumping on board to run with a particular wolf pack. |
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you talk about the LS3 as being near dead and talk about how the LS7 is what the Z28 should have. The LS7 is on it's last legs also. but whatever. I just think your feeling about the zl1 not stepping up is wrong. I feel the ZL1 is the better car all around. so what if it can't accelerate faster. honing in that much power for the average driver will be a task. the ZL1 is better for average drivers. we don't know what's up the sleeve of GM. they could come out with the Gen V in the Z28 and then the smaller version of the Gen V for the SS. I think that would play out quite nicely. |
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I do not think any current NA Chevy engine in a Camaro will out run a ZL1 at the track. And GM says the iLE should run with the Boss. There is not a lot of room there in between. And it gets a little tricky with weight. The ZL1 has a much heavier differential than the SS. I think, and I could be wrong, that this, after the supercharger, is the second biggest reason for the ZL1 weight gain. So what if Chevy decides the LS7 needs the beefier differential to handle the LS7 over the long haul. Keeping MRC (it sounds like it is worth the weight gain) for the moment, there may only be a 100 pound difference between the ZL1 and an LS7 Z28. Is a Z28 @ 4,000 pounds a Z28? Finding out how good the ZL1 is at the track is a Z28 game changer for me. Except for the cost, poor gas milage, and gas guzzler tax, I want one. Apparently the weight is not a problem at all at the track or anywhere else. And looking at what Pedders is saying about the ZL1, you can easily raise the ZL1 bar with some simple suspension mods. And an additional 100 hp is there for the taking. So, what if say SLP slips an LS7 and the ZL1 front brakes into the 1LE and creates the Z28SLP. Would that fit the bill?
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