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Matze · 02-02-2014, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 1olddude

My Camaro was built in Canada so I can't claim American made either. The world is different than it was 50 years ago.

So it's still American made. Just not US made...

motorhead · 02-02-2014, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Matze

So it's still American made. Just not US made...

No, North American made. Not American made.

Bad@ssCamaro · 02-02-2014, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by motorhead

No, North American made. Not American made.

Isn't that just semantics.

1olddude · 02-02-2014, 11:47 PM

I don't think there is actually a North American flag so I don't think it is semantics. They are built in Canada or I suppose it would be more accurate to say they are 'assembled' in Canada. I don't know why that is the case but for some reason that's where we put them together. It's a bit ironic that Hondas, Toyotos, Hyundais and the like are all put together right here in the good old USA. Just doesn't make sense to this old boy.

AWSME SS · 02-03-2014, 12:04 AM

I don't buy Dodge cars anyway.

shrinkdoc · 02-03-2014, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by G-Oil Guy

You're really just arguing semantics now. When the majority share owner is a foreign company who supplies you capital and payroll with which to run your business they're the owners.

They're decisions carry and no one else can over rule them. Hence the term "majority"

Once they ceased being 100% owned or at least 51% majority American owned they became a foreign owned company. Spin it anyway you want but those are the facts.

And as others pointed out in this thread, Chrysler didnt really have a choice in the matter. Would you prefer them to still exist or have gone out of business back in 2007-8 and have all of those American workers lose their jobs?

Trials are won arguing semantics.

shrinkdoc · 02-03-2014, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by motorhead

No, North American made. Not American made.

Some camaros were being made in Canada in the 1960s and 70s maybe forever. The next gen Camaro will be made on US soil.

shrinkdoc · 02-03-2014, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 1olddude

I don't think there is actually a North American flag so I don't think it is semantics. They are built in Canada or I suppose it would be more accurate to say they are 'assembled' in Canada. I don't know why that is the case but for some reason that's where we put them together. It's a bit ironic that Hondas, Toyotos, Hyundais and the like are all put together right here in the good old USA. Just doesn't make sense to this old boy.

Yeh...but still under Japanese control...sort of like a Japanese embassy that employs US help.

Silverlsinva · 02-03-2014, 12:13 PM

The funny part is that Gm actually use to own part of fiat lol and look at them now.

ewynn9 · 02-03-2014, 12:42 PM

Who really cares enough that this will affect their daily lives? The common car buyer doesn't care who owns what or where a car was manufactured as long it has everything they want.

snizzle · 02-03-2014, 03:28 PM

Wait, is there a such thing as a true American car anymore?

ssump29 · 02-03-2014, 03:38 PM

Fiat owns Ferrari sooooo I'm sure they know how to build properly or hire people to do so.

LOWDOWN · 02-03-2014, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 3

Of course one could argue that Rick Wagoner's horrid deal where they bought in to Fiat for $2 billion and bought themselves out for another $2.5 billion paid for the whole deal.

Touche'.

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Originally Posted by 1olddude

I don't know why that is the case but for some reason that's where we put them together.

Take a look at Oshawa's history from a quality, co$t of production, and GM inve$tment$ p.o.v. And take a look at Ontario's and Canada's "contributions" to the infamous bailout...17%.

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Originally Posted by shrinkdoc

Some Camaros were being made in Canada in the 1960s and 70s maybe forever. The next gen Camaro will be made on US soil.

Actually, Gen-4s ('93-'02, including all SLP variants) were built/assembled exclusively in Canada. When Ste. Therese QC closed in '02, ask fbodfather what the initial effects, and ramifications, were/are. He has written, here, about those...very eloquently and emotionally...

Thrillz · 02-03-2014, 04:16 PM

All i can say in the matter as a owner of 2 dodge vehicles they make very good products. Which ever direction they have gone in the last few years has been good for the brand.

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02-02-2014, 11:47 PM	#18
1olddude Drives: 2013 2LT/RS Silver Ice Metallic. Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Utah Posts: 104 View My Garage	I don't think there is actually a North American flag so I don't think it is semantics. They are built in Canada or I suppose it would be more accurate to say they are 'assembled' in Canada. I don't know why that is the case but for some reason that's where we put them together. It's a bit ironic that Hondas, Toyotos, Hyundais and the like are all put together right here in the good old USA. Just doesn't make sense to this old boy.

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Silverlsinva Drives: 2013 Fiat 500 Abarth Grigio Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Manassas, Va Posts: 3,124	The funny part is that Gm actually use to own part of fiat lol and look at them now.