12-28-2010, 09:08 PM | #1 |
$7500 to spend
I keep going back and forth between N/A and FI. I would like to go FI for a couple different reasons but the more I read about them the more worried I get about something going wrong. I know that many people here have Maggies, KB's, Whipple and Vortech with no problems but it seems like there is so much more involved in it. So I was thinking instead of spending $7500 on a blower I could just build my motor. I already have a cam and LT's so I was thinking about heads and maybe a stroker kit. I know alot of people say don't stroke its not worth HP to dollar ratio like FI. But I was also thinking about "bulletproofing" (still not sure what this means) the engine while doing it. Sorry for the long and rambling post but just looking for suggestions on how to spend my $7500 staying N/A and any input from the Vendors.
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12-28-2010, 09:39 PM | #2 |
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FI, build the motor later unless you're trying to run huge hp right now.
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For $7500 I'd go with a forged 416, a 200 plate shot of nitrous with a nano kit, and a HD clutch. You'll still spend less than 7500 and the engine will be fortified as compared to just bolting on a F/I kit and hoping for the best with the stock rotating assembly. With this combo you're looking at about 650-700rwhp with a good tune.
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12-28-2010, 10:28 PM | #5 |
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I'd recommend going to Jannetty and telling him your overall goal; he'll figure out the right package to make that happen within your budget if possible.
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Supercharger
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12-28-2010, 10:40 PM | #7 |
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KB for sure that sound is pure sex!
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12-28-2010, 10:46 PM | #8 |
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Supercharger.....
We have been installing Maggie's for many years and have had no troubles as long as you don't add more boost. We are getting plenty of power with L/T's with Hi-flow cats, exhaust and a good tune. Don't get me wrong I have played with Nitrous and it is a lot of fun as well and can be reliable if installed correctly. The only problem is you should only run it for about 10 to 12 seconds at a time so you don't burn out solenoids. Then there is filling the bottle. It's not that much but sometimes a pain in the butt when you want to play and you are out of the "Sauce". Supercharger is ALWAYS there no matter what. Just my .02
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12-28-2010, 11:26 PM | #9 |
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I'll send you a pm. We offer s/c's and forged engines, I'll explain the pro's and cons of FI on s stock short block to you.
GM doesn't do it, they built a special engine for the s/c and they recommend a forged piston on the LS9 s/c kit. Yes it can be done on a cast piston but it is not ideal. S/c's make a lot of money for shops selling and installing and tuning them. BUT there are two side to the FI coin they all like to gloss over. I sell you forged bottom end and an s/c at $100 over cost if thats what you want but I wont recommend FI on a stock bottom end. We build proper precision race engines. At 7500 your 3k short of doing both.. |
12-28-2010, 11:42 PM | #10 |
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This is just my take and I'm no expert by any means.
Go with a nice Stage II cam and a little head work. Get it to around 500 rwhp. Then upgrade your suspension like the craddle bushings and Trailing Arms. A set of gears and a set of drag radials on a second set of wheels and you should be able to have plenty of fun. You'll probably have a bit of money left over. That combo should get you into the 11's which should be plenty good to have fun at the track with. On the street it should be controlable power. There was a video floating around of a 1000 hp Camaro (although I know you're not talking 1000 hp) and everytime he stepped into the gas it got all sideways. Not controllable or useable IMO. To me all that HP doesn't do you any good if you can't get it to stick and go. I would also recommend that you call Janetty and/or ADM performance and talk to them about what you have and what you are looking to do. Have them give you some recommendations.
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If that's what I had to spend and wanted complete reliability and power, I'd make a phone call to Eric at HKE directly and get yourself into a nice 418 or 434 better yet.
Spend the rest of the money on tires and suspension.....you'll need it. That's coming from my personal "what would you do" perspective. I'm sure everybody (vendors included) would have their own agendas as to what they think you need. Keep us posted either way and best of luck in your endeavors! Ivan @ Southwest Speed |
12-29-2010, 01:13 AM | #12 |
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Vortec makes some good power, and sounds VICIOUS
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12-29-2010, 08:03 AM | #14 |
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I've got no problom with you CC...you've given me a lot of info...everyone should understand that the fun we have with modifying these cars is dependant on people in the performance industry paying their bills.
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