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soonerfanru2 · 06-21-2009, 12:38 PM

My car arrived on the 16 of june # 1504 I went and drove it and sighned all the paperwork. I left it there so they could install the gfx the next day. The car was still dirty from shipping when I test drove it so I couldnt tell any thing was wrong. Well the dealer called me and said there was defects in the paint and If was there car they wouldnt want it. It looks like little indentions in the paint and it is rusting already in those spots and is on most sections of the car. The GM rep is going to inspect it some times this week and tell me my options. I really want the low number car but I do not want a car that has been repainted. If they can reorder me one and put me at the top of the list where I will receive it in about a month I think I will wait. Any Ideas on what my options are and what I should do?

VR Code R6P · 06-21-2009, 12:46 PM

The low VIN would be nice to keep, but I'm not sure it would be worth it to me. Inside, I would always know it had been painted on. If it was one small part of the car, like the front bumper, maybe. Just my 2cents. Good luck.

chrisinlittlerock · 06-21-2009, 12:47 PM

it's so sad this is a reocurring theme. GM had a prime opportunity to get this right and they failed again. You can't say it's because it's a new car. I've owned 5 Toyotas and none of them had ANY issues, zero!!!! Make them get you a new car ASAP!!!! And bitch the whole time.

speedster · 06-21-2009, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisinlittlerock

it's so sad this is a reocurring theme. GM had a prime opportunity to get this right and they failed again. You can't say it's because it's a new car. I've owned 5 Toyotas and none of them had ANY issues, zero!!!! Make them get you a new car ASAP!!!! And bitch the whole time.

I have had problems with a new model Toyota, so it is not unique to GM.

Bell040 · 06-21-2009, 01:02 PM

mine (#1691) has the same little spots... its looks like a bunch of drops of acid (20 or 30) sat on the paint (hood, roof and trunk) for a while. I tried buffing on them for a long while but they will not come out.

I bet this happened while the car was sitting in QC in Pontiac, MI.

DarricSS · 06-21-2009, 01:08 PM

I would keep the Low Vin# car and have the body shop repaint it and throw in some painted rally stripes...

stikSS · 06-21-2009, 01:15 PM

That sux...... mine is coming this week, and i'm not accepting it if there is the first thing wrong with it. I hate seeing this over and over.

tom692010 · 06-21-2009, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedster

I have had problems with a new model Toyota, so it is not unique to GM.

I bought a 08 saturn vue and I sh** you not I had it back within the first year 15x. Sometimes for the same issue,sometimes to correct the problem they caused by trying to repair it. Anyway I bet everyones got a story
one way or another about a satanic vehicle. Gone now-traded it for the Camaro!!!

blackonblack2010 · 06-21-2009, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soonerfanru2

My car arrived on the 16 of june # 1504 I went and drove it and sighned all the paperwork. I left it there so they could install the gfx the next day. The car was still dirty from shipping when I test drove it so I couldnt tell any thing was wrong. Well the dealer called me and said there was defects in the paint and If was there car they wouldnt want it. It looks like little indentions in the paint and it is rusting already in those spots and is on most sections of the car. The GM rep is going to inspect it some times this week and tell me my options. I really want the low number car but I do not want a car that has been repainted. If they can reorder me one and put me at the top of the list where I will receive it in about a month I think I will wait. Any Ideas on what my options are and what I should do?

I would tell them that if the car is going to be repainted at their expense that you want to pick a custom paint shop to do it right. If not then you need a discounted camaro price for the hassle. I ordered blkonblk also. Good luck and keep us posted just in case it happens to someone else.

Wikedwil · 06-21-2009, 02:42 PM

GM or any manufacturer will not authorize a "outside shop" to do repairs. I have been in the biz for 30 years. Got out bcause of BS like this and insurance companies.
Good luck !!! They do have to fix it right.

Baughman · 06-21-2009, 02:48 PM

Yikes!!! I also ordered black on black. So def. keep us up to date if you don't mind. As far as getting a new car or repainting. I would have to say it depends on how bad and soon you "have" to have the car. Good luck with your decisions.

carls241 · 06-21-2009, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soonerfanru2

My car arrived on the 16 of june # 1504 I went and drove it and sighned all the paperwork. I left it there so they could install the gfx the next day. The car was still dirty from shipping when I test drove it so I couldnt tell any thing was wrong. Well the dealer called me and said there was defects in the paint and If was there car they wouldnt want it. It looks like little indentions in the paint and it is rusting already in those spots and is on most sections of the car. The GM rep is going to inspect it some times this week and tell me my options. I really want the low number car but I do not want a car that has been repainted. If they can reorder me one and put me at the top of the list where I will receive it in about a month I think I will wait. Any Ideas on what my options are and what I should do?

My dealer has repaired my car (Black 2SS) and I keep finding items. Look for my thread "Shes Damaged and review. I suggest you re-order and wait. Contrary to popular belief, they do have ways of expediting a replacement.

It will never be the same as a factory paint job, and you are paying way too much for this car.

Just mt 2 cents

Vash · 06-21-2009, 03:06 PM

There is no way it's rusting unless someone scraped up the metal. It's galvanized.

We would need pictures.

earn88hardt · 06-21-2009, 03:12 PM

sounds like raill dust to me you can't get tha stuff out of the paint

Hawks · 06-21-2009, 03:12 PM

I would keep the low vin and just have them paint it and through in some incentives. Someone else down the road will end up with your low Vin repainted like nothing was wrong.

carls241 · 06-21-2009, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soonerfanru2

My car arrived on the 16 of june # 1504 I went and drove it and sighned all the paperwork. I left it there so they could install the gfx the next day. The car was still dirty from shipping when I test drove it so I couldnt tell any thing was wrong. Well the dealer called me and said there was defects in the paint and If was there car they wouldnt want it. It looks like little indentions in the paint and it is rusting already in those spots and is on most sections of the car. The GM rep is going to inspect it some times this week and tell me my options. I really want the low number car but I do not want a car that has been repainted. If they can reorder me one and put me at the top of the list where I will receive it in about a month I think I will wait. Any Ideas on what my options are and what I should do?

My dealer has repaired my car (Black 2SS) and I keep finding items. Look for my thread "Shes Damaged and review. I suggest you re-order and wait. Contrary to popular belief, they do have ways of expediting a replacement.

It will never be the same as a factory paint job, and you are paying way too much for this car.

Just my 2 cents

GMtothecore · 06-21-2009, 03:28 PM

acid rain sucks.......

PsyDoc · 06-21-2009, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikedwil

GM or any manufacturer will not authorize a "outside shop" to do repairs. I have been in the biz for 30 years. Got out bcause of BS like this and insurance companies.
Good luck !!! They do have to fix it right.

I had a Ford Probe back in the 90's and it had a water leak. I took it in under warranty (2x) and the dealership could not find it and ended up replacing the carpet twice. They ended up calling in a company that specializes in finding water leaks. He found and fixed the leak that was the result of seam sealer not being applied in a particular area. Ford authorized the repair.

Shaggy · 06-21-2009, 03:47 PM

Keep the car and have it repainted. I can always replace the paint, but never the low vin number. Besides, if you get it repainted, it will be in your hands alot faster then waiting for another order. Alos think that your order will be a vin in the range of #15000 +. Stick with the low vin.

GatorBlue371 · 06-21-2009, 03:51 PM

Not worth the low VIN, get the new car.

Camaro509 · 06-21-2009, 03:59 PM

Man, some of you guys think it is the end of the world with the paint. It's just paint! Have them have it repainted and enjoy it. Hell, I'd have them do a custom color and graphics for your hassle.

If you were to have had this car 10 years, you'd probably have it painted anyway, no reduction in value and like others have mentioned already, this car has a low VIN that can't be replaced.

To be perfectly honest, I'd be all over this like pepperoni on pizza getting a custom paint job on their dime

the Mole · 06-21-2009, 04:20 PM

Back in '06 I bought a new Savana van. The day it was delivered to the dealer someone bounced a rock off the hood. So not only chipped it they also dented it. When I picked it up they told me they fixed it up right away. If they didn't tell me I would never have known. If it's done right it's just as good as factory.

My 2c

buddylok · 06-21-2009, 04:25 PM

My local GM Dealer is also having a hard time with the Black paints on their Camaro.
They see scratches, bumps etc...
One customer bought a Black SS a week ago and it is not leaving the shop for another week or so...

72Zmaggie98Z · 06-21-2009, 04:40 PM

I would keep the low vin it that is important to you. If you get involved in a frnder bender accident what are you going to do? Get a whole new car? You get it repaired and repainted, I don't see the difference. I would not hold my breath on getting any custom paint job or anything additional. Good luck!

jrhaus76 · 06-21-2009, 04:47 PM

Here is a good one... not a Camaro but...

I bought a brand new 2007 black Corvette in March 2007. Took delivery on a rainy night b/c was too excited to wait till the next day and have them detail it. I took it home, put it in the garage and washed it myself only to find the ENTIRE car covered in overspray. Not a little bit, a ton of it. All body panels, windows, lights, everywhere. I called the dealer the next day. No one could figure out how it got there. They looked at it and offered me a paint protector... WHAT? I said no thanks, I want what is on there off, not more crap piled on top of it. When you rubbed your hand on it, it felt like sand paper. They offered me to take it to a professional of my choice to have it removed so i took it to a shop I heard was "preofessional" and expressed my concerns about scratches, swirls and burnt corners from the buffer. They said they would clay bar it then buff and wax it. I got the "We just clayed and buffed a new Z06 in black so you have nothing to worry about"... blah blah blah.

I am still fighting with the swirls and they didn't scratch it too bad and they only burnt off a little bit of paint. All in all it looks really good when cleaned up, I spent 8 hours on it this weekend but it is not as it should be IMO. If I knew then what I knew now, I would have returned it and got a new one. It is not a low VIN.

I am done with black... for good.

As for the OP and my change, return it. Will a low VIN really mean anything? Youre 1500 cars in, not 3.

06-21-2009, 12:47 PM	#3
chrisinlittlerock Drives: 2010 Camaro/08 Tundra Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: little rock arkansas Posts: 528	it's so sad this is a reocurring theme. GM had a prime opportunity to get this right and they failed again. You can't say it's because it's a new car. I've owned 5 Toyotas and none of them had ANY issues, zero!!!! Make them get you a new car ASAP!!!! And bitch the whole time. __________________ Rally Yellow 2SS/RS with Custom painted Black Rally Stripes Delivered: 8/18!!!!Yes!!!! "This is CHEVY country. On a quiet night you can hear a Ford rust."

06-21-2009, 01:02 PM	#5
Bell040 2G1FT1EW2A9101691 Drives: 2SS/RS - Black - GFX Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,067 View My Garage	mine (#1691) has the same little spots... its looks like a bunch of drops of acid (20 or 30) sat on the paint (hood, roof and trunk) for a while. I tried buffing on them for a long while but they will not come out. I bet this happened while the car was sitting in QC in Pontiac, MI. __________________ Ordered: 10-13-08 Built: 3-30-09 (#1691) Recieved: 6-12-09

06-21-2009, 01:08 PM	#6
DarricSS Drives: '10 Camaro Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Gilbert, Arizona Posts: 662	I would keep the Low Vin# car and have the body shop repaint it and throw in some painted rally stripes... __________________ SIM, 2SS/RS, LS3, CGM Stripes

06-21-2009, 01:15 PM	#7
stikSS Helluva Ride Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Cameron, NC Posts: 452 View My Garage	That sux...... mine is coming this week, and i'm not accepting it if there is the first thing wrong with it. I hate seeing this over and over. __________________ Owner of 9691 on June 25, 2009 2SS Inferno Orange, M6, White Stripes. Power Swain Chevrolet 361.96 HP - 358.29 TQ - 10/3/2009

06-21-2009, 02:48 PM	#11
Baughman Drives: Black 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 464	Yikes!!! I also ordered black on black. So def. keep us up to date if you don't mind. As far as getting a new car or repainting. I would have to say it depends on how bad and soon you "have" to have the car. Good luck with your decisions. __________________ Black/Black, 2SS/RS, Manual, and Polished 20's VIN# 28396

06-21-2009, 12:38 PM	#1
soonerfanru2 Drives: 2ss Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: muskogee ok. Posts: 41	Bad paint on black 2ss My car arrived on the 16 of june # 1504 I went and drove it and sighned all the paperwork. I left it there so they could install the gfx the next day. The car was still dirty from shipping when I test drove it so I couldnt tell any thing was wrong. Well the dealer called me and said there was defects in the paint and If was there car they wouldnt want it. It looks like little indentions in the paint and it is rusting already in those spots and is on most sections of the car. The GM rep is going to inspect it some times this week and tell me my options. I really want the low number car but I do not want a car that has been repainted. If they can reorder me one and put me at the top of the list where I will receive it in about a month I think I will wait. Any Ideas on what my options are and what I should do?

06-21-2009, 12:46 PM	#2
VR Code R6P Drives: 2010 VR 2SS RS M6 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: eastern CO Posts: 293	The low VIN would be nice to keep, but I'm not sure it would be worth it to me. Inside, I would always know it had been painted on. If it was one small part of the car, like the front bumper, maybe. Just my 2cents. Good luck.

06-21-2009, 02:42 PM	#10
Wikedwil Drives: 2010 Camaro Black LS Join Date: May 2009 Location: Upstate N.Y. Posts: 368	GM or any manufacturer will not authorize a "outside shop" to do repairs. I have been in the biz for 30 years. Got out bcause of BS like this and insurance companies. Good luck !!! They do have to fix it right.

06-21-2009, 03:06 PM	#13
Vash Drives: 00 Blazer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,152	There is no way it's rusting unless someone scraped up the metal. It's galvanized. We would need pictures.

06-21-2009, 03:12 PM	#14
earn88hardt Drives: 07 avalanche 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ohio Posts: 75 View My Garage	sounds like raill dust to me you can't get tha stuff out of the paint

06-21-2009, 03:12 PM	#15
Hawks Drives: 2010 Camaro, 2004 Frontier Join Date: May 2009 Location: Abilene, KS Posts: 280 View My Garage	I would keep the low vin and just have them paint it and through in some incentives. Someone else down the road will end up with your low Vin repainted like nothing was wrong. __________________ CGM 2SS/RS, Manual VIN# 24515 Please go to this site to add your information to the site and spreadsheet... http://camarotracking.com/ At the top is a blue ADD ORDER TO TRACKING DATABASE click on it and fill in the blanks. Make sure spelling and case is correct. Thats it and you will be added.

06-21-2009, 03:28 PM	#17
GMtothecore Camaro=whispering eye mag Drives: Camaro SS...........what else? Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: OOOOOOOklahoma where the wind comes sweepin' down the plains. Posts: 2,115	acid rain sucks....... __________________ VIN 32889 is built and on it's way HOME!

06-21-2009, 03:47 PM	#19
Shaggy 2010 Maro owner Drives: 2006 Chevy Truck Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 115	Keep the car and have it repainted. I can always replace the paint, but never the low vin number. Besides, if you get it repainted, it will be in your hands alot faster then waiting for another order. Alos think that your order will be a vin in the range of #15000 +. Stick with the low vin. __________________ CamaroTrax.com - New camaro forum. AllOfftopic.com - Got time on your hands? Want to talk about anything, play arcades? This is the place for you. TahoeYukonForum.com - For the Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade owners out there.

06-21-2009, 03:51 PM	#20
GatorBlue371 Drives: vrooooom vrooooom Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 1,410	Not worth the low VIN, get the new car. __________________ "With a light touch on the brakes, run the revs up a bit. Slip off the brake and bury the throttle. There's a light chirp as tires scratch for bite. Then comes a sub-5.0-second sled ride to 60 mph. A tick over 13.0 sec. and you're through the quarter-mile. It's a rush, of course, but not overly dramatic. Try the same thing with this pair's predecessors of 1970 or so and you'll find yourself in a bit of a wrestling match. Ain't progress wonderful? Maybe yes, and maybe sometimes it's fun to wrestle."

06-21-2009, 03:59 PM	#21
Camaro509 Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Black Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,013	Man, some of you guys think it is the end of the world with the paint. It's just paint! Have them have it repainted and enjoy it. Hell, I'd have them do a custom color and graphics for your hassle. If you were to have had this car 10 years, you'd probably have it painted anyway, no reduction in value and like others have mentioned already, this car has a low VIN that can't be replaced. To be perfectly honest, I'd be all over this like pepperoni on pizza getting a custom paint job on their dime __________________ Understeer, Oversteer, Wheel Alignment (Camber etc), Torque, Horsepower, Camaro Fold for team 11108 to help find a cure! Folding@home Stanford's Research DC Program.

06-21-2009, 04:20 PM	#22
the Mole Retired but not done! Drives: '66 Impala '06 HHR '03 FJR1300 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oshawa Posts: 389	Back in '06 I bought a new Savana van. The day it was delivered to the dealer someone bounced a rock off the hood. So not only chipped it they also dented it. When I picked it up they told me they fixed it up right away. If they didn't tell me I would never have known. If it's done right it's just as good as factory. My 2c __________________ Disclaimer:Anything posted by me "the Mole" is my own opinions and thoughts , and don't necessarily represent the positions,strategies or opinions of GM. This is where I've ridden my bike.

06-21-2009, 04:25 PM	#23
buddylok Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LT (IOM) Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Coquitlam, BC Canada Posts: 302 View My Garage	My local GM Dealer is also having a hard time with the Black paints on their Camaro. They see scratches, bumps etc... One customer bought a Black SS a week ago and it is not leaving the shop for another week or so...

06-21-2009, 04:40 PM	#24
72Zmaggie98Z Drives: 1972Z, 2010 RS/SS CGM & Orange Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oregon Posts: 14	I would keep the low vin it that is important to you. If you get involved in a frnder bender accident what are you going to do? Get a whole new car? You get it repaired and repainted, I don't see the difference. I would not hold my breath on getting any custom paint job or anything additional. Good luck!

06-21-2009, 04:47 PM	#25
jrhaus76 Camaro5 fest - #25 Drives: 67 Camaro, 89 IROC, 10 2SS/RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 2,757 View My Garage	Here is a good one... not a Camaro but... I bought a brand new 2007 black Corvette in March 2007. Took delivery on a rainy night b/c was too excited to wait till the next day and have them detail it. I took it home, put it in the garage and washed it myself only to find the ENTIRE car covered in overspray. Not a little bit, a ton of it. All body panels, windows, lights, everywhere. I called the dealer the next day. No one could figure out how it got there. They looked at it and offered me a paint protector... WHAT? I said no thanks, I want what is on there off, not more crap piled on top of it. When you rubbed your hand on it, it felt like sand paper. They offered me to take it to a professional of my choice to have it removed so i took it to a shop I heard was "preofessional" and expressed my concerns about scratches, swirls and burnt corners from the buffer. They said they would clay bar it then buff and wax it. I got the "We just clayed and buffed a new Z06 in black so you have nothing to worry about"... blah blah blah. I am still fighting with the swirls and they didn't scratch it too bad and they only burnt off a little bit of paint. All in all it looks really good when cleaned up, I spent 8 hours on it this weekend but it is not as it should be IMO. If I knew then what I knew now, I would have returned it and got a new one. It is not a low VIN. I am done with black... for good. As for the OP and my change, return it. Will a low VIN really mean anything? Youre 1500 cars in, not 3. __________________ 2SS/RS LS3, SIM-black hood and hockey stripes. Baseline SAE: 357HP/367TQ. MODS: HURST short throw, Richmond 4.10s, Pfadt poly differential mounts, K&N drop in (+7HP/-4TQ), Custom tune ---HP/---TQ.

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