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[headpunter]

Originally Posted by Georgie

don't ford cars have a higher quality rating than GM?

not better then the newest cars added to the Gm line, (g8, cts, tahoe, malibu just to name a few)

[Beau Tie]

Originally Posted by camaropete

Listen, everyone has their opinion. Some people are die hard Camaro people (us) and some people are die hard Mustang people (like the guy that wrote that). He's entitled to his opinion. Even though the entire world knows it's wrong.

Very true. But people don't like it when other people don't agree with them, opinion or not.

For example, in my opinion, the chick on top (A) is hotter than the chick on bottom (B)

A



B



Now, is my opinion WRONG? Doubt it. But is it a FACT? No. Chick B might look hot if she took that mask off.

Which is better below. A or B?

A



B



I would say that both B's have a lot in common

[SdustinK]

Hahahaha

[SdustinK]

That guy doesnt know anything.

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by Georgie

don't ford cars have a higher quality rating than GM?

I know you have a lot of loyalty to Ford, but ratings don't come from enthusiasts most of the time. Cars like the G8 and Malibu are being compared to BMWs. You can't exactly say that about the Mustang.

Let's not confuse competitors with equals.

[Mike Grasso]

Every muscle car has a diehard following.

Mustangs and Camaro's have been at each other for years.

With that said, Mustang followers have enjoyed several years without any competition. That's now over and the Muscle Car Wars will start all over.

Everyone who runs a race by themselves is a winner.

I for one stand with the Fbodfather and welcome the competition.

Mike

[Georgie]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

I know you have a lot of loyalty to Ford, but ratings don't come from enthusiasts most of the time. Cars like the G8 and Malibu are being compared to BMWs. You can't exactly say that about the Mustang.

Let's not confuse competitors with equals.

i doubt the malibu is equal to a bmw but its one of the better cars GM has

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1224...googlenews_wsj

[The_Blur]

Originally Posted by Georgie

i doubt the malibu is equal to a bmw

The old one had the appearance and quality of a school bus. The new one is pretty amazing. You should go look at one. Even you will be impressed.

[Mr. Wyndham]

Originally Posted by Georgie

i doubt the malibu is equal to a bmw

Doubts and driving experiences are two different things. Blur's correct - such comparisons (although a stretch, I agree) have been made, which is astounding.

[Georgie]

its a fwd bread and butter car, its not a rwd performance oriented sedan like the G8, so you really can't make the comparison

[Beau Tie]

Originally Posted by Georgie

i doubt the malibu is equal to a bmw but its one of the better cars GM has

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1224...googlenews_wsj

Malibu build quality is actually better than the BMW build quality. Granted, the BMW has the performance edge. But in terms of build quality, the new Malibu has that wrapped up.

[Georgie]

The A/B picture comparison is not really accurate. The Camaro is bigger and has bigger displacement but no overhead cam. The Mustang is smaller and has smaller displacement and a SOHC or DOHC depending on the model. This is a more accurate comparison:

A



B





A



B

[StuMac]

Originally Posted by Georgie

its a fwd bread and butter car, its not a rwd performance oriented sedan like the G8, so you really can't make the comparison

BMW has bread and butter cars too. Why does everyone assume the comparison is to an M3 whenever someone brings up "compares favorably to a BMW. Being an owner of a lower end 3 series, I can safely say: it's a wonderful feel, stiff without being harsh, but cruise control would be nice, and I wish I didn't have to be so gentle with the transmission.

[Georgie]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

The old one had the appearance and quality of a school bus. The new one is pretty amazing. You should go look at one. Even you will be impressed.

i am impressed and i'm glad domestics have improved their game, malibu is no exception, but to say that GM is leaps and bounds ahead in quality compared to Ford is just not accurate and to think that Ford won't be bringing their A game moving forward is wishful thinking